https://youtu.be/dZyZV3y9loM?t=180 Masters Vladir Ferreira vs. Adivaldo Batista III Sequence starts at 03:00 Notice the left handed amassa pao grip on the near side collar, used to set up the stack pass. Super old school technique, because the grip follows the trajectory of the punch (were it a vale tudo situation). Right elbow is retracted past the kneeline, so armlock is gone. Hip angle and weight placement kills the potential for omoplata on the 'punching' left hand. Wonderful variation.

I wish I can be on the mats in that age...

I would say the amassa pao (thrusting choke / tsukkomi jime) is no different than a regular gi choke.

Can, it's not like the guy is grabbing the windpipe and squeezing like a murderer. I would say the amassa pao (thrusting choke / tsukkomi jime) is no different than a regular gi choke. It's actually not aimed at the windpipe, but the side of the neck.

Oh, and did you have any thoughts on that Simon Hayes smash pass video, in case you missed it? I'd be curious to hear what you think of the Carlson Gracie London approach: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]&t=59s

The submission works just as well from the double underhook stack, which is less risky.

If I remember right, you showed something very similar to that (possibly exactly that) at the Leuven camp back in 2015, or thereabouts?

In my humble opinion the stack pass is the most effective in jiu jitsu. It is very effective when done correctly. It is a soul stealing guard pass and should be part of everyone's arsenal.

It is a soul stealing guard pass and should be part of everyone's arsenal.

Here's a short clip from a class of mine, on his very subject. *Hips Over Head* *Make Him Eat His Knee* https://youtu.be/njENtjIUXdY

As ever, it's too mean for me, so I intentionally removed it from my arsenal (though I do of course teach it, as like you say, it's a fundamental and effective pass). I also know too many people who have had their necks hurt due to stack passes. Again, I have to caveat that with 'you know me, I'm a ridiculous pacifist weirdo, who discards effective techniques because he lives in fairytale unicorn land.' :P For me, it's all about the knee slide, occasionally a single underhook (being very careful about where I put the pressure). Those are my main options, but my passing approach is possibly a bit strange (I really liked Christian's class on the topic a while ago, I got a lot out of that).

Actually it isn't a meaner way of passing unless the passer continues to hold it when the person on bottom has already conceded the pass to wait for the transitional opportunities. It only feels mean because they are resisting the pass (which is normal).

If you think stack passes are *mean*... May I present to you, the One Handed Choke by Marcus Soares... (mat enforcer at one of the hardest gyms in the history of the sport) https://www.instagram.com[...]ibax0w2gwv

I know a guy who acually BROKE a piece of his cartilage in his windpipe, due to an ezekiel. He almost lost his voice, because the cartilage blocked / injured his vocal chords, and had to have surgery to get it get fixed.

https://youtu.be/dZyZV3y9loM?t=180 Masters Vladir Ferreira vs. Adivaldo Batista III Sequence starts at 03:00 Notice the left handed amassa pao grip on the near side collar, used to set up the stack pass. Super old school technique, because the grip follows the trajectory of the punch (were it a vale tudo situation). Right elbow is retracted past the kneeline, so armlock is gone. Hip angle and weight placement kills the potential for omoplata on the 'punching' left hand. Wonderful variation.

In my humble opinion the stack pass is the most effective in jiu jitsu. It is very effective when done correctly. It is a soul stealing guard pass and should be part of everyone's arsenal.