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Josh Vogel
Josh Vogel
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5 year(s) ago
I thought it might be interesting to have a resource thread to see who you all study for specific things in grappling.

Right now, leg drag passing is on my radar, and I’m studying Tainan Dalpra a lot because he is great at chaining leg drags together with side to side movement and combining them with other passes.

https://youtu.be/b-YLWTB9KM8

I’m curious who you all like to study for other specific things (armbar escapes, cut passing, whatever)
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Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
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5 year(s) ago
I've had a long, looong period (10+ years) of not really studying Jiu Jitsu but just playing it no different than enjoying rolling around on a skateboard a bit to do tricks. Leg lock and invertion crazes have passed me due to knee- and back injuries. I also don't really care about winning or improving any longer, I just like playing the game. However, recently I've found a lot of inspiration in Priit Mihkelson's thoughts about defensive aspect of the game. For years I didn't really like it, to be honest mostly because I wouldn't admit to myself that it was something I have been neglecting to practice, study and teach properly. As a black belt who has been teaching my entire career, it's not always fun when someone points out there's something you don't know anything/enough about. Anyway, eventually I came around and I've found a lot of joy in practicing this. In some areas it feels like starting from scratch both as a practitioner and instructor, which I think has been very healthy. Solid material to pass on to students as well; it has greatly improved my ability to make them more confident when on bottom.

He has a lot of free material online; watch with an open mind :)
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Josh Vogel
Josh VogelOP
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I've had a long, looong period (10+ years) of not really studying Jiu Jitsu but just playing it no different than enjoying rolling around on a skateboard a bit to do tricks. Leg lock and invertion crazes have passed me due to knee- and back injuries. I also don't really care about winning or improving any longer, I just like playing the game. However, recently I've found a lot of inspiration in Priit Mihkelson's thoughts about defensive aspect of the game. For years I didn't really like it, to be honest mostly because I wouldn't admit to myself that it was something I have been neglecting to practice, study and teach properly. As a black belt who has been teaching my entire career, it's not always fun when someone points out there's something you don't know anything/enough about. Anyway, eventually I came around and I've found a lot of joy in practicing this. In some areas it feels like starting from scratch both as a practitioner and instructor, which I think has been very healthy. Solid material to pass on to students as well; it has greatly improved my ability to make them more confident when on bottom. He has a lot of free material online; watch with an open mind :)
I gotcha. Haha I toggle back and forth between just having fun with skateboarding and trying to improve. I like the puzzle of trying to learn tricks but when it gets stressful I go back to cruising for fun mode.

Nice, Priits stuff is very interesting and I definitely like studying what I can find of his defensive postures. I like competition footage of Roger Gracie, DDS guys and Jeff glover footage for defense and escapes as well
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James Jones
James Jones
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5 year(s) ago
I really like Roy Deans stuff.

I don't really study or watch videos in a deep detail or anything. I mostly just watch youtube videos sometimes out of boredum for ideas. But I really like how slow and smooth everything is in all his stuff. It's all 100% pure technique and beautiful. lol

I think he has an extreme focus on being well rounded and knowing attacks and the transitions from every single position possible to an extreme level in the lower belt demos but it is very pretty to watch. lol


His profile is: https://www.beltchecker.c[...]hp?id=4003
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
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5 year(s) ago
All Gracie Jiu Jitsu stuff, DDS, Marcos Barbosa and pretty much anything I have time to look at and drill. I have about 1TB of video.
It's too much sometimes. I look at one or two things and put myself in bad situations and try to recover over a period of time. Some things work better for me specifically than others because of my body type and physical limitations. I do love all of it though.
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Charlie
Charlie
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5 year(s) ago
For learning good fundamentals I will watch anything from the Gracie brothers.

For lapel and everything else I watch Keenan Cornelius.

Spider guard and torreando I like to watch Jon Thomas.

Leandro Lo for passing.

Galvao for drills.
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Vince Choo
Vince Choo
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5 year(s) ago
However, recently I've found a lot of inspiration in Priit Mihkelson's thoughts about defensive aspect of the game. For years I didn't really like it, to be honest mostly because I wouldn't admit to myself that it was something I have been neglecting to practice, study and teach properly. As a black belt who has been teaching my entire career, it's not always fun when someone points out there's something you don't know anything/enough about. Anyway, eventually I came around and I've found a lot of joy in practicing this. In some areas it feels like starting from scratch both as a practitioner and instructor, which I think has been very healthy. Solid material to pass on to students as well; it has greatly improved my ability to make them more confident when on bottom. He has a lot of free material online; watch with an open mind :)
I second this as I've been on the Turtle defense learning for the past few years. I discovered my defense was lacking and needed a Step 0 launch point for my game. I also pick up some material from Niel Melanson (hybrid catch wrestling), more traditional techniques from Brian Glick, Shawn Williams guard play and regular freestyle wrestling for takedowns and controls even though I primarily wear a gi but use no-gi grips. My study has a bias for personal safety so its the Crazy Monkey Defense material when incorporating punch defenses. At my age I don't care about winning/losing but rolling for fun and challenge is healthy and productive and passing on the information to the next generation are my current go to.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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5 year(s) ago
My goal with my BJJ game is to build something that I can use for my whole life, not stuff that I'll eventually get too old and broken to do. Combined with my passive personality and hatred of aggression, that means I've got a very defensive game and most of my stuff is simple (e.g., get to side control, north south, kimura). That means I don't pay much attention to fancy spinny stuff, inversions etc. I also remain terrified of leglocks, but hopefully once the Focus Camp in Leuven happens, Craig Jones and Lachlan Giles can help me with that. Forced myself to buy a ticket a while ago, so a part of me was quite relieved when it got postponed. :P

I've always watched a lot of video. Saulo and Xande were early (and remain to this day) favourite sources, especially Saulo's 'Jiu Jitsu Revolution' sets (much of which still holds up), then Xande's later set, simply called 'Xande Instructional Series'. So good, it doesn't get anywhere near enough love. That was followed by BJJ Library, which is one of my go-to sites when I'm preparing a class and want to compare how others teach whatever technique I'm doing that day.

I find both the Ribeiros are very good with details on maintaining top position, which is an area I don't see taught enough (many instructionals focus on submissions and sweeps instead, I'm more interested in how to get to a position and hold it). The most important thing I learned from Saulo's vids is the running escape, which has become the core of my game. After later training with Priit and Chris Paines, that's added a whole bunch of other stuff to my running escape.

I've been playing with Priit's grilled chicken for years now, because I detest open guard: I've yet to get a handle on it, but fun to play with. Grilled chicken and running escape have been my main projects over lockdown (in England, we haven't been able to train properly since March 2020), I've bought both of Priit's sets on those topics, still working through them.

The other site I use for teaching prep is Grapplers Guide, I've been a member since the beginning in 2007, IIRC. Jason Scully (who is on Beltchecker, but I don't think he checks the forums much) has a video for pretty much everything, particularly after he started bringing in guest instructors. I loved learning from Aaron Milam at the Leuven Camp a few years back, so I need to properly dig into Aaron's videos on Grapplers Guide. With Aaron, it is mostly his closed guard material I've been using, as that's what the private lesson I took with him focused on (particularly leg clamp stuff).

Other than that, various guard retention, as like I said I really hate being in open guard. Ryan Hall's 'Defensive Guard' was amazing for that, helped me a lot, I rely on the frames he shows in that. Danaher's guard retention set mostly collates what I've already seen from Hall, Priit etc, but that's been interesting to work through too (at 2x speed, Danaher is unwatchable at normal speed ;) ).
Jorgen Matsi
Jorgen Matsi
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5 year(s) ago
Combined with my passive personality and hatred of aggression, that means I've got a very defensive game and most of my stuff is simple
Yes, your main technique of avoiding rolls with ppl IS indeed simple :)
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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5 year(s) ago
Yes, your main technique of avoiding rolls with ppl IS indeed simple :)
It's definitely helped the whole "have a working body in older age" thing. ;)

But yeah, I've promised myself that I'm going to try and grab people like you, Daniel Bertina etc for rolls next time I see you. Still turning down everybody I don't know though. I'll never be an elite grappler, but I can totally be an elitist grappler. :P
James Jones
James Jones
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Yes, your main technique of avoiding rolls with ppl IS indeed simple :)
Is he the guy that never makes eye contact when it comes time to roll? lol

And open guard is amazing in the GI for defense and not taking damage and being lazy if you have any athletic ability at all.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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Is he the guy that never makes eye contact when it comes time to roll?
Ha - I'm German, so it doesn't matter if you make eye contact. I will happily tell somebody to their face, "sorry, I don't want to roll with you." Directness FTW. :P
James Jones
James Jones
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Ha - I'm German, so it doesn't matter if you make eye contact. I will happily tell somebody to their face, 'sorry, I don't want to roll with you.' Directness FTW. :P
I am not from nor have I ever lived in Germany. Only visited but I do have German blood with Norwegian, Welsh and the rest of the British kingdoms lol.

I've never turned down a roll though. I will just turn it into a drill session if I don't really want to roll with someone and make them pick something to drill. lol
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Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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I am not from nor have I ever lived in Germany.
I should probably stop saying "I'm German" when I actually just mean "I am blunt and direct, plus I really really like organising stuff." But meh. :P
Francesco Fonte
Francesco Fonte
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5 year(s) ago
I watch random matches and fights that catch my attention, unless they are on flograppling which I'm still avoiding to subscribe to, regardless of the theme/topic/technique I'm mostly working on in a given time. I also probably watch more MMA then jiu-jitsu.

Now that I'm thinking about, MMA I watch more fights than instructionals, jiu-jitsu I do the opposite.

I don't miss (and I watch multiple times) any BJJ Scout and Jack Slack study.
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Josh Vogel
Josh VogelOP
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My goal with my BJJ game is to build something that I can use for my whole life, not stuff that I'll eventually get too old and broken to do. Combined with my passive personality and hatred of aggression, that means I've got a very defensive game and most of my stuff is simple (e.g., get to side control, north south, kimura). That means I don't pay much attention to fancy spinny stuff, inversions etc. I also remain terrified of leglocks, but hopefully once the Focus Camp in Leuven happens, Craig Jones and Lachlan Giles can help me with that. Forced myself to buy a ticket a while ago, so a part of me was quite relieved when it got postponed. :P I've always watched a lot of video. Saulo and Xande were early (and remain to this day) favourite sources, especially Saulo's 'Jiu Jitsu Revolution' sets (much of which still holds up), then Xande's later set, simply called 'Xande Instructional Series'. So good, it doesn't get anywhere near enough love. That was followed by BJJ Library, which is one of my go-to sites when I'm preparing a class and want to compare how others teach whatever technique I'm doing that day. I find both the Ribeiros are very good with details on maintaining top position, which is an area I don't see taught enough (many instructionals focus on submissions and sweeps instead, I'm more interested in how to get to a position and hold it). The most important thing I learned from Saulo's vids is the running escape, which has become the core of my game. After later training with Priit and Chris Paines, that's added a whole bunch of other stuff to my running escape. I've been playing with Priit's grilled chicken for years now, because I detest open guard: I've yet to get a handle on it, but fun to play with. Grilled chicken and running escape have been my main projects over lockdown (in England, we haven't been able to train properly since March 2020), I've bought both of Priit's sets on those topics, still working through them. The other site I use for teaching prep is Grapplers Guide, I've been a member since the beginning in 2007, IIRC. Jason Scully (who is on Beltchecker, but I don't think he checks the forums much) has a video for pretty much everything, particularly after he started bringing in guest instructors. I loved learning from Aaron Milam at the Leuven Camp a few years back, so I need to properly dig into Aaron's videos on Grapplers Guide. With Aaron, it is mostly his closed guard material I've been using, as that's what the private lesson I took with him focused on (particularly leg clamp stuff). Other than that, various guard retention, as like I said I really hate being in open guard. Ryan Hall's 'Defensive Guard' was amazing for that, helped me a lot, I rely on the frames he shows in that. Danaher's guard retention set mostly collates what I've already seen from Hall, Priit etc, but that's been interesting to work through too (at 2x speed, Danaher is unwatchable at normal speed ;) ).
Nice, I used to love the old Saulo instructionals and played running man escape a lot for a while. I got away from it but Priits stuff makes me want to take another look at trying to make a proactive escaping system out of running man>turtle>connected positions

I am watching Danahers guard retention and also his new escapes instructional and really loving both of those. I played with his kipping mount escape on Saturday and failed miserably, but I can see some hope with it if I troubleshoot it more. Intriguing
Josh Vogel
Josh VogelOP
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5 year(s) ago
I watch random matches and fights that catch my attention, unless they are on flograppling which I'm still avoiding to subscribe to, regardless of the theme/topic/technique I'm mostly working on in a given time. I also probably watch more MMA then jiu-jitsu. Now that I'm thinking about, MMA I watch more fights than instructionals, jiu-jitsu I do the opposite. I don't miss (and I watch multiple times) any BJJ Scout and Jack Slack study.
Yeah, I generally watch fight and grappling footage waaay more than I watch instructional footage. It seems like there is sometimes a disconnect between what athletes teach in their instructionals and what they actually do in competition, so I refer to the competition first. Plus I like the puzzle of working backwards from the fight and seeing if I can get an accurate read on what is actually happening and how people solve those problems in real time, and then organizing that for myself.
Daniël Bertina
Daniël Bertina
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5 year(s) ago
Any instructor that has a coherent, conceptual approach, that doesn't rely on overly complicated techniques, has my upvote.

Can you explain what you do in 1 sentence?

Also, talk less, but show how it works in connection.

Deepu
Deepu
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5 year(s) ago
111 half guard techniques by Caio is a treasure trove, great fundamentals and it gets very advanced. If you're only gonna buy one set for half guard, get this.

Bernardo Faria's half guard stuff as the Faria sweep is my best sweep. All his content on his blog is excellent. He's fundamental in changing the instructional market, respect.

Lachlan's half guard set, also excellent.

Jake Mackenzie, great deep half stuff.

Felipe Costa's stuff on his site brazilianblackbelt.com. Cumprido's approach to deep half there is different and brilliant.

Pressure Passing by Fabio Gurgel took my smashing to the next level.

Recently I've been very impressed by Gary Tonons videos. Excellent escapes videos.




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Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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I played with his kipping mount escape on Saturday and failed miserably, but I can see some hope with it if I troubleshoot it more. Intriguing
Kipping mount escape? Interesting, are there any vids? is that literally what it sounds like, trying to fling yourself straight up?
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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Danaher product, sans braggadocio.
Ooo, the second part of that sounds especially appealing, as the chest beating frat boy covidiot humble lion bullshit is why I can't stomach watching a lot of the DDS people. However, I'm not convinced it is entirely Danaher's fault that a number of his top guys seem to be such arseholes. After all, Danaher ALSO produced at least two black belts who are awesome human beings and excellent instructors, Aaron Milam and Jeff Knight.

As three of you have recommended Glick now, I'll check him out. I'm assuming Glick is therefore more like Aaron and Jeff, as opposed to like Gordon Ryan?

And thanks for the video! Another classic example of BJJ terminology being totally non-standardised. I've used that escape for years (except unsurprisingly I don't do for a leg lock set up, I go to butterfly guard), but I've always called it 'bump to butterfly', or simply 'mount escape to butterfly'. Does everybody call it the kipping escape and I'm way behind the curve? ;)

http://www.slideyfoot.com[...]0Butterfly
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Daniël Bertina
Daniël Bertina
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5 year(s) ago
Forum members Rolf Busman and Jochem Branderhorst had Brian Glick over for a weekend seminar. By all accounts, the man is a gentleman and a teaching / technical phenom.
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
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5 year(s) ago
Forum members Rolf Busman and Jochem Branderhorst had Brian Glick over for a weekend seminar. By all accounts, the man is a gentleman and a teaching / technical phenom.
I've heard the same from guys that have trained with him. He is on another level is what everyone says about him.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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Forum members Rolf Busman and Jochem Branderhorst had Brian Glick over for a weekend seminar. By all accounts, the man is a gentleman and a teaching / technical phenom.
Awesome, thanks: as I know both Jochem and you, that's a solid recommendation.

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