For those of you with a background in judo/JJJ, do you use any typical judo ne waza submissions/pins not frequently seen in BJJ? If so, which ones? I myself like to go for the ashi gatame when attacking the turtle, for example.

Ude sankkaku / yoko are not seen so much in BJJ, so I am a big fan of those. Kesa Gatame is also another position that doesn't get as much love in BJJ but I use from Judo. The one I use a ton though is koshi jime. I love that damn choke - most never see it coming till it's waaay too late.

Can you post a video of the first one(s) you mentioned? I use kesa variations all the time (kuzure/ushiro/makura, hon not so much). Koshi jime is just a clock choke/relógio if I'm not mistaken. I love it too, but I think it's quite common in BJJ. In fact, I teach it all the time to beginners.

Ude sankkaku / yoko are not seen so much in BJJ, so I am a big fan of those.

I will find a video or the back and side triangle for sure sir. as for clock choke, I should clarify - the version I like is the traditional judo one where 1 hand is controlling bad guy's wrist from underhook and the other hand is across throat choking while hip thrusts in. But you are correct, the clock choke is used quite a bit sir, apologies for not being more clear in my description.

Did you mean sankaku jime from the back and side control or are you talking about anything else? I've always done the clock choke as you just described, but I've seen judo guys grabbing the knee instead of the wrist and I thought that was the most common version in judo.

yes sir, back triangle and side triangle. I guess I don't see many of the folks I train with doing either, and I haven't seen a ton in comps etc, but that's only 7 years in BJJ,

The only judo thing I took away from my few years doing it was applying pressure via scarf hold but it’s definitely one of my go-tos when someone is too energetic.

Yes I'm a Judo BB and still use various subs from Kesa Gatame - and Makura Kesa Gatame Shoulder Locks, Lung Choke, Straight Arm Bar and there is an Americana there too...

Lung choke is now my favorite name for a submission, and I don't even know what it is. Zoltan Bathory Seminar at my gym? I like this idea!

I have made some friends with this one: https://youtu.be/TJPFzv5MeWo

I have made some friends with this one: https://youtu.be/TJPFzv5MeWo

First comes the surprise, then the panic... then the tap...

I have made some friends with this one: https://youtu.be/TJPFzv5MeWo

This is the sub that Dean Lister did to Josh Barnett back in the day Professor. From kesa gatame you cradle their head and roll up onto them so it just gets tighter and tighter as they breathe. It feels like you are drowning on land. Not the most pleasant. I think I have heard of it called the Animal Choke from Kurt Osiander as well.

I think it was Barnett who gets lister. Such a good match. This was the match that inspired me to work on playing heavier while I’m on top https://m.youtube.com/wat[...]E2TC9-oEk4

Ude sankkaku / yoko are not seen so much in BJJ, so I am a big fan of those. Kesa Gatame is also another position that doesn't get as much love in BJJ but I use from Judo. The one I use a ton though is koshi jime. I love that damn choke - most never see it coming till it's waaay too late.

For those of you with a background in judo/JJJ, do you use any typical judo ne waza submissions/pins not frequently seen in BJJ? If so, which ones? I myself like to go for the ashi gatame when attacking the turtle, for example.