Gracie jiu-jitsu = traditional aspect of the art Brazilian jiu-jitsu = competition-based grappling art So by this logic if you do a bit of both then you practice Gracie Brazilian jiu-jitsu / GBJJ ? When does a martial art become 'traditional'? For example, 'vintage' is accepted as most things more than 30 - 80 (?) years old and beyond that it's 'antique'. https://grapplinginsider.[...]jiu-jitsu/

It would be the traditional Japanese variant which including true self defence to be used as hand to hand combat in warfare.

Until adopting Western methods, Japan never had much military success, nor martial prowess, outside of some fluke wins against Korea. If it was not for the weather patterns, Japan would have been a minor Mongol Empire colony. Prior to Kano, who was a student of all things Western, it is unlikely 'Jiu-Jitsu' played any role, in any warfare. Of course, Judo is a very nice amalgamation of western wrestling, sumo wrestling (a derivative import of Mongol belt wrestling), and various other martial disciplines Kano studied along the way from everywhere else. Although, the Samurai folklore and fairy tales are entertaining enough, in an Arthurian fables kind of way. And who does not love a good fairy tale, if it is told well, particularly ones with scary endings, which sadly enough, have mostly gone out of fashion.

I want to be best friends with William Murphy.

I want to be best friends with William Murphy.

Well, come to Florida, and I shall make sure that you have mats to train on, And put you on kayaks, in the gulf, or the swamp, as you prefer, fishing, or just kayaking, and we can go hunt a pig, or shoot some guns, and/or airguns, and I will fill you full of meat, or seafood and do my best, to make sure you do not fit into your pants when you leave.

I am sorry I don't care about names to me it's sqaushing people and twisting stuff.. To me in BJJ the whole argument is based on an attempt to stay relevant when the sport / art you started has actually passed you by. That is just my OPINION.. It actually reminds me of traditional martial arts when the talk about how the UFC isn't really fighting. They don't even train with contact how the hell do they know what fighting is

When you guys get a more.....moderate.....governor we can talk. I prefer ones who aren't telling everyone what they can or cannot do all the time.

My wife tells me what I have to do. And...I do it because I wanted to, not because she told me I had to. I don't want a motorcycle. Seriously, guys, I don't want one. Not even a little bit... Damn it....

It's for the gym. Business expense.

Sadly, she has heard that one many times before, and now has developed immune response.

The key is to remember you WANT what she tells you that you want.

You are wise in the ways of wives, I see.

Get one in her name and you volunteer to be the caretaker. This worked for a friend who decided to get a mid life crisis sports car :)

Until adopting Western methods, Japan never had much military success, nor martial prowess, outside of some fluke wins against Korea. If it was not for the weather patterns, Japan would have been a minor Mongol Empire colony. Prior to Kano, who was a student of all things Western, it is unlikely 'Jiu-Jitsu' played any role, in any warfare. Of course, Judo is a very nice amalgamation of western wrestling, sumo wrestling (a derivative import of Mongol belt wrestling), and various other martial disciplines Kano studied along the way from everywhere else. Although, the Samurai folklore and fairy tales are entertaining enough, in an Arthurian fables kind of way. And who does not love a good fairy tale, if it is told well, particularly ones with scary endings, which sadly enough, have mostly gone out of fashion.