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Researching float passing
4 year(s) ago • 7015 views • 23 replies
CDBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Hello,
Thanks to globetrotters, I was able to learn escapes and defense from Mr. Priit and Mr. Wim.
Now I'm looking for someone who has a great knowledge in float passing with leg pummeling.
I only have a very few resources to learn this type of passing, so i'm trying to find someone here in the community that has a vast knowlege on this technique. Also I noticed that float passing is done in nogi, i'm not sure if it can be done as well in gi. if someone knows who can I enquire, please point me in the right direction. Thanks everyone!
Thanks to globetrotters, I was able to learn escapes and defense from Mr. Priit and Mr. Wim.
Now I'm looking for someone who has a great knowledge in float passing with leg pummeling.
I only have a very few resources to learn this type of passing, so i'm trying to find someone here in the community that has a vast knowlege on this technique. Also I noticed that float passing is done in nogi, i'm not sure if it can be done as well in gi. if someone knows who can I enquire, please point me in the right direction. Thanks everyone!
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nogi: Gordon Ryan obv
Gi: it's harder because of the collar grip from bottom
Passing and open guard are fundamentally different in no-gi and gi, just like judo is different from greco... because you know... and I'm quoting myself here from a video that is going to be up on Globetrotters in Action soon:
"The main difference between gi and no-gi is... you know... the gi."
Gi: it's harder because of the collar grip from bottom
Passing and open guard are fundamentally different in no-gi and gi, just like judo is different from greco... because you know... and I'm quoting myself here from a video that is going to be up on Globetrotters in Action soon:
"The main difference between gi and no-gi is... you know... the gi."
OHBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Jorgen is right
in GI, you can still watch TERERE and SHAOLIN ribeiro fights (if you find some...this is super-old school, before youtube existed :-D )
shaolin is mostly known for his sweep game (butterfly and shaolin) but he was a world level beast at floating guard pass
in GI, you can still watch TERERE and SHAOLIN ribeiro fights (if you find some...this is super-old school, before youtube existed :-D )
shaolin is mostly known for his sweep game (butterfly and shaolin) but he was a world level beast at floating guard pass
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
My passing video https://www.youtube.com/w[...]4-bgJOR7nI
was inspired by Terere / BJJ Scout https://www.youtube.com/w[...]7WdGfQXpiI
(also the first instrumental hip hop track there gets me SO PUMPED TO TRAIN ALWAYS!)
was inspired by Terere / BJJ Scout https://www.youtube.com/w[...]7WdGfQXpiI
(also the first instrumental hip hop track there gets me SO PUMPED TO TRAIN ALWAYS!)
OHBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
daaaamn, you're that guy :-O
i saw that video (a good one by the way) in the past,
simply not figured out i was talking with the same guy here, funny!
i saw that video (a good one by the way) in the past,
simply not figured out i was talking with the same guy here, funny!
CDBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
My passing video https://www.youtube.com/w[...]4-bgJOR7nI was inspired by Terere / BJJ Scout https://www.youtube.com/w[...]7WdGfQXpiI (also the first instrumental hip hop track there gets me SO PUMPED TO TRAIN ALWAYS!)
i like your concept of controlling the shrimping leg thanks for sharing!
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CDBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nogi: Gordon Ryan obv Gi: it's harder because of the collar grip
Ah yes. I do understand that the grip will really play a factor in gi so it can get tricky to apply float passing. I remember Eduardo Telles likes to "surf" around the guys in gi too. :)
But anyway, I still want to know if anyone here can share their techniques in float passing. That would be awesome!
But anyway, I still want to know if anyone here can share their techniques in float passing. That would be awesome!
CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
I think I saw a video about about float passing on the Globetrotters channel. Can't remember who it was Teaching.
In my experience float passing is nearly the same with gi, just can't give any pant sleeve grips to the opponent.
In my experience float passing is nearly the same with gi, just can't give any pant sleeve grips to the opponent.
CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nogi: Gordon Ryan ...
I dunno man. Gordon also said you shouldn't squat and build leg muscles because that will limit your leg dexterity and passing abilities. :D
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
In my experience float passing is nearly the same with gi, just can't give any pant sleeve grips to the opponent.
Yes, you can do it but access to collar can misdirect your floating weight and mess it all up easier than in nogi.
FGBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Gordon Ryan is definitely the one to watch for Float Passing applied in high levels of competition, but you will have to watch a whole bunch of matches to find it and the angles that you see aren't always great for learning... Interestingly I don't remember there being too much in the way of Float Passing in Gordon's Guard Passing instructional from memory either... Or maybe it has been too long since I have watched it!
I took a bunch of private lessons on Float Passing a few years ago from DDS Brown belt Matt Tesla and learnt so much! I ended up hosting him for a seminar on Float Passing which was awesome. The reality is that Float Passing, at least as I think most people think of it (hands posted and heavy with legs light to pummel and maneuver) is a predominantly a No Gi Passing style/skill. As mentioned previously the grip on the Gi changes the dynamic for a number of reasons including the ability to choke, displace the guard passer's centreline and more importantly head position which makes the passer vulnerable to the guard player getting deep underneath to set up sweeps and leg entanglements.
I stayed away from creating any videos on the topic as I learnt them in confidence a few years ago but I guess the game has evolved so much now that I may think about creating some YouTube videos on the topic.
I took a bunch of private lessons on Float Passing a few years ago from DDS Brown belt Matt Tesla and learnt so much! I ended up hosting him for a seminar on Float Passing which was awesome. The reality is that Float Passing, at least as I think most people think of it (hands posted and heavy with legs light to pummel and maneuver) is a predominantly a No Gi Passing style/skill. As mentioned previously the grip on the Gi changes the dynamic for a number of reasons including the ability to choke, displace the guard passer's centreline and more importantly head position which makes the passer vulnerable to the guard player getting deep underneath to set up sweeps and leg entanglements.
I stayed away from creating any videos on the topic as I learnt them in confidence a few years ago but I guess the game has evolved so much now that I may think about creating some YouTube videos on the topic.
CDBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Gordon Ryan is definitely the one to watch for Float Passing applied in high levels of competition, but you will have to watch a whole bunch of matches to find it and the angles that you see aren't always great for learning...
Hello @Felipe yes I agree.
If you ever make that YT video i will surely watch it.
If you ever make that YT video i will surely watch it.
JJBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
I dunno man. Gordon also said you shouldn't squat and build leg muscles because that will limit your leg dexterity and passing abilities. :D
I'm getting my legs bigger and better endurance just so I can sweep bigger guys easier from the ground lol.
I feel like the most important muscle is the quadricep at least for me the upper body strength doesn't seem near as valuable as leg strength.
Quadriceps and Hamstrings are about the only muscles I care about right now but I really like open guard and sweeps that attack the weight distribution as a final step after creating distance over removing distance first and loading the weight on yourself.
I feel like the most important muscle is the quadricep at least for me the upper body strength doesn't seem near as valuable as leg strength.
Quadriceps and Hamstrings are about the only muscles I care about right now but I really like open guard and sweeps that attack the weight distribution as a final step after creating distance over removing distance first and loading the weight on yourself.
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CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
That's the best approach, imo. Build the base (legs, glutes). Jiu-jitsu is about using the strongest muscles together to isolate limbs, so it only makes sense. Building strong legs and core is also great for wrestling/judo. Basically do the exact opposite what Gordon does in his "how to get swole" DVD.
Here's an old video from Jeff Glover, good stuff: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]3gjk5iQx3Q
And Ben Westrich's stuff from 2019 Iceland camp: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]KymHMMqC3I
Here's an old video from Jeff Glover, good stuff: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]3gjk5iQx3Q
And Ben Westrich's stuff from 2019 Iceland camp: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]KymHMMqC3I
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
And Ben Westrich's stuff from 2019 Iceland camp: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]KymHMMqC3I
TOM HARDY DOES FLOAT PASSING?!?
(awesome video)
(awesome video)
CDBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
That's the best approach, imo. Build the base (legs, glutes). Jiu-jitsu is about using the strongest muscles together to isolate limbs, so it only makes sense. Building strong legs and core is also great for wrestling/judo. Basically do the exact opposite what Gordon does in his 'how to get swole' DVD. Here's an old video from Jeff Glover, good stuff: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]3gjk5iQx3Q And Ben Westrich's stuff from 2019 Iceland camp: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]KymHMMqC3I
oh thanks man!!
BNPurple beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Here are a couple of solid, short videos from Brian Glick (a longtime student of Danaher):
https://www.youtube.com/w[...]za7vpaSRWU
https://www.youtube.com/w[...]bGa33ydQz4
https://www.youtube.com/w[...]za7vpaSRWU
https://www.youtube.com/w[...]bGa33ydQz4
CDBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Here are a couple of solid, short videos from Brian Glick (a longtime student of Danaher): https://www.youtube.com/w[...]za7vpaSRWU https://www.youtube.com/w[...]bGa33ydQz4
Thanks man! I just recently followed Brian Glick in YT too. Didn't know he had these. Thanks again!
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Glick was very cool. I'm going to adapt float style to my Renegade Passing ideas now - all about pinning the "far" hip!
https://youtu.be/d4-bgJOR7nI
https://youtu.be/d4-bgJOR7nI
WMBlue beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Hello, Thanks to globetrotters, I was able to learn escapes and defense from Mr. Priit and Mr. Wim. Now I'm looking for someone who has a great knowledge in float passing with leg pummeling. I only have a very few resources to learn this type of passing, so i'm trying to find someone here in the community that has a vast knowlege on this technique. Also I noticed that float passing is done in nogi, i'm not sure if it can be done as well in gi. if someone knows who can I enquire, please point me in the right direction. Thanks everyone!
Rory Van Vliet has cool stuff on floating, check his YouTube RVVBJJ or Island Top Team as well
WMBlue beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Hello, Thanks to globetrotters, I was able to learn escapes and defense from Mr. Priit and Mr. Wim. Now I'm looking for someone who has a great knowledge in float passing with leg pummeling. I only have a very few resources to learn this type of passing, so i'm trying to find someone here in the community that has a vast knowlege on this technique. Also I noticed that float passing is done in nogi, i'm not sure if it can be done as well in gi. if someone knows who can I enquire, please point me in the right direction. Thanks everyone!
Rory Van Vliet has cool stuff on floating, check his YouTube RVVBJJ or Island Top Team as well
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Watched a couple of more videos... My head has exploded a bit. Might teach a class in next camps on passing :D
But there's already SO MUCH good passing material out also on Globetrotters Academy :D
But there's already SO MUCH good passing material out also on Globetrotters Academy :D
DBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
In for links
AWBrown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
I think it can be used in gi but you need head and arm control first, before you start leg pummeling. When they are using frames in the HQ position I mainly pummel to inside bicep ties to deny inside chest position to achieve cross face and under hook. With head and arm control I raise my hips and pin their head down and start pummeling legs.
It works really well! But I first learned it nogi and felt solid with this there and later started applying it in gi and finding success.
It works really well! But I first learned it nogi and felt solid with this there and later started applying it in gi and finding success.
