I'm just getting over being sick. All I know is if I was to die or have life-long complication from something. I'd be much happier living with it knowing that I got it from the actual infection itself than from a vaccine. If it comes out in the future that one of the vaccines from one of the companies actually causes significant damage in someway leading to heart attacks or whatever else that would be far more difficult to deal with. If nature kills me it kills me. I can accept that. What I don't want to accept is having lifelong complications due to a drug that I was forced to take. And that is my opinion.

So I assume you're not getting your tetanus shots either?

Coincidentally... Headline: 3 Americans Died of Rabies from Bat Bites in 2021 After Refusing Life-Saving Vaccine https://www.newsweek.com/[...]ne-1666514

In Finland the biggest issue has been the lack of ICU space for the patients. And that's probably true for the most parts in the world. We can't allow the health care system to become overburdened and lose lives because of that. Don't really care if somebody is vaccinated or not as long as they understand this and do their best minimize risk of infection. Edit: Nick was basically typing about the same thing and beat me to it. Must have a black belt in typing as well. :D

Coincidentally... Headline: 3 Americans Died of Rabies from Bat Bites in 2021 After Refusing Life-Saving Vaccine https://www.newsweek.com/[...]ne-1666514

Me: Don't ask me, I have absolutely no experience in medicine or epidemiology. I think the safest thing to do is to try and rely on the consensus of literally millions of experts in these fields of study/practice. BJJ Dude: Yeah bro, I don't know if I can get behind that logic...

I think the safest thing to do is to try and rely on the consensus of literally millions of experts in these fields of study/practice.

A large concern is when the heads of these companies switch back and forth between working for the FDA and Pfizer/Moderna etc interchangeably. They don't care about our health. They care about making money. They try to get any generic product banned that may be useful. Research on some things being locked away for 3 generations and so on. It's very hard to trust any of these companies or the governments when money is involved. This entire thing has been used to just make the rich richer and the consequences of inflation are going to last longer than anything else along with all the new laws they create as an excuse for your protection just like 9/11. Also when there is an actual real deadly pandemic all cause deaths will greatly increase instead of staying basically the same. Somehow for the first time in history a 'deadly' pandemic hasn't caused all cause deaths to increase. The average age of covid death is higher than life expectancy. No one wants older and immune compromised people to suffer or die. But causing wide spread panic and ruining the economy and mental health of so many is not the solution. Proper education and protocols are a better solution. Maybe not put all the old people in the same spots. Maybe don't bring your grandkids to visit your grandparents getting them sick and so on. In all likely hood in the future you will see commercials on tv that say if you took such and such vaccine please call this lawyer office to file your claim. I'm about to have a child born in a couple months and I am completely for certain vaccines that he will need. They have been tested for decades and are important. Some of them are mandatory I am sure and some are not. I am sure I will research them and even make sure he gets several shots that are not mandatory because it's in his or everyone else's best interest. Covid has red flags all over it and just blindly agreeing with the people making money off of it is not logical. What I have known since the entire thing started is how virus's evolve is that they become more contagious over time and less deadly. And that is exactly what is happening. More contagious and less deadly. People have allowed fear to cause more damage than this virus ever could have or will. 'Fear is a sickness. It will crawl into the soul of anyone who engages it.' The Those Who Remain quote is nearing its cycle. “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” In general when your opinions are the same as just about everyone else's then you don't have any opinions.

Polio is natty af, bro. lol. --- BJJ Guys on Forums --- BJJ Dude: I don't know anything about heel hooks. How can I get proficient at heel hooks? Me: Don't ask me, I'm not so good at them, but I hear that Craig Jones has a good instructional video on them. He's one of the best in the world at heel hooks. BJJ Dude: Yeah bro, I'm gonna buy the video right now. Oss... --- Also BJJ Guys on Forums --- BJJ Dude: I don't know if I should get the vaccine or not. I'm hearing lots of conflicting information about them. Me: Don't ask me, I have absolutely no experience in medicine or epidemiology. I think the safest thing to do is to try and rely on the consensus of literally millions of experts in these fields of study/practice. BJJ Dude: Yeah bro, I don't know if I can get behind that logic...

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How did this become a political or science debate. It was to see how many people training got covid. And what symptoms.

Oh man, hopefully the millions of doctors out there have seen this 11-paragraph article brought to you courtesy of the same guys who brought us shows like 'Ancient Aliens', 'Finding Hitler', and 'Naked and Afraid'. Groundbreaking stuff. Look, we're fortunate enough to have, here on the forum, at least one real doctor (Nick), who can probably graciously answer all of these questions for you if you really want to know the answers to them... for free! This is like having, say, Eddie Bravo on here at your disposal, answering any question you have about rubber guard and the shape of the earth, if that's your thing...

Had it, pushed through it. Had my vaccines and now can't be bothered personally, but will be respectful of other. Just want this world to go back to normal again. Get well soon though

For the record, I have not, to my knowledge, gotten infected ...I completely expect to catch covid at least once in my life, as it seems it's here to stay at this point.

Coincidentally, I had been experiencing a dry throat as I was writing this, and I took a rapid test today out of precaution and turns out it's COVID. lol. I have yet to experience anything more severe than a slightly dry throat though (no lung stuff or loss of taste/smell) which is pretty standard for the omicron variant if you're fully vaxxed... The most annoying thing is not being able to train. Other than a slightly dry throat I feel like a champ. This is the longest I've been off the mats in years. My nails are long and I'm shedding skin from old calluses that don't have a reason to be there anymore... haha. I guess it's a good time to keep stretching my crusty old joints and watch comp videos...

Hope you start feeling better (then now at least :) ) and get back on mats . Check out Yoga for BJJ - I have been doing that for a couple years now and it's helped me a ton. I also am an instructor for it.

Yes, I have checked it out! We used to have a 'class' where we just ran a video but the class wasn't very popular so we cancelled it along with our subscription. Our only 'instructor' we used was Sebastian... dude's hilarious. 'Ohhhh yeah... dat's a juicy spot right dere'... haha.

Coincidentally, I had been experiencing a dry throat as I was writing this, and I took a rapid test today out of precaution and turns out it's COVID. lol. I have yet to experience anything more severe than a slightly dry throat though (no lung stuff or loss of taste/smell) which is pretty standard for the omicron variant if you're fully vaxxed... The most annoying thing is not being able to train. Other than a slightly dry throat I feel like a champ. This is the longest I've been off the mats in years. My nails are long and I'm shedding skin from old calluses that don't have a reason to be there anymore... haha. I guess it's a good time to keep stretching my crusty old joints and watch comp videos...

Hope you start feeling better (then now at least :) ) and get back on mats . Check out Yoga for BJJ - I have been doing that for a couple years now and it's helped me a ton. I also am an instructor for it.

Hope you start feeling better (then now at least :) ) and get back on mats . Check out Yoga for BJJ - I have been doing that for a couple years now and it's helped me a ton. I also am an instructor for it.