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New Study published on Injuries in BJJ

4 year(s) ago • 1854 views • 18 replies

Maximilian Hinz
Maximilian Hinz
White beltVerified12 forum posts0/0
4 year(s) ago
Hey guys and girls,

last year I shared a link to survey on injuries in BJJ. Because of all of your help we managed to collect data from over 1000 BJJ athletes. The results have just been published and are available under the following link:

https://journals.sagepub.[...]1211062568

I also posted a short summary on my instagram @athletesmd

Thanks again for your help!
Bruno Yamamoto
Bruno Yamamoto
Black beltVerifiedEngland - UK58 forum posts3420/1000
4 year(s) ago
Wow great stuff! Really nice to see how the community help you with that. I will take my time to have a deep reading in all of it.

Great conclusion. But I would say that the majority of the knee injuries are caused by extensive "wrong" knee rotation not just by someone not tapping to a submission (at least that is how I injuried both of my knees when I was white/blue belt - extensively applying a delariva hook when your partners is resisting).
Bobby McMasters
Bobby McMasters
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1272 forum posts12800/1000
4 year(s) ago
Interesting read. Thanks for posting! I guess I can stop preaching to my students about how safe bjj is, and how rare it is that someone gets injured.
Nick Tyau
Nick Tyau
Black belt 1st degreeVerified314 forum posts4290/1000
4 year(s) ago
Hey guys and girls, last year I shared a link to survey on injuries in BJJ. Because of all of your help we managed to collect data from over 1000 BJJ athletes. The results have just been published and are available under the following link: https://journals.sagepub.[...]1211062568 I also posted a short summary on my instagram @athletesmd Thanks again for your help!
Very cool doc! Are you in pm&r? I’m jealous that you can do research like this. Not sure interesting it would be for people to read about incidence of diabetes among bjj practitioners.

Are you familiar with Chris Moriarty (bjj black belt) who has also done similar work?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.n[...]/31288212/
Kelly Reynolds
Kelly Reynolds
Black beltVerified87 forum posts2915/1000
4 year(s) ago
Great post, I wish I could get hurt only once in three years lol. My old ars gets hurt looking at the mat. I always manage to at least get on the mat and do something, even if it’s just to help the lower ranks.
Maximilian Hinz
Maximilian HinzOP
White beltVerified12 forum posts0/0
4 year(s) ago
Very cool doc! Are you in pm&r? I’m jealous that you can do research like this. Not sure interesting it would be for people to read about incidence of diabetes among bjj practitioners. Are you familiar with Chris Moriarty (bjj black belt) who has also done similar work? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.n[...]/31288212/
Thanks, I am working in Orthopeadic Surgery.

Chris Moriarty's work is very interesting - I have mentioned it in the publication.
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4764 forum posts34325/1000
4 year(s) ago
Hey guys and girls, last year I shared a link to survey on injuries in BJJ. Because of all of your help we managed to collect data from over 1000 BJJ athletes. The results have just been published and are available under the following link: https://journals.sagepub.[...]1211062568 I also posted a short summary on my instagram @athletesmd Thanks again for your help!
Forwarded to my physio therapist (bjj student of mine) and he loved it. Thanks again!
Jeremy Franklin
Jeremy Franklin
Black beltVerified217 forum posts2720/1000
4 year(s) ago
Did you collect data on if they were training Gi or NoGi? I’d assume injuries are more frequent in NoGi due to the emphasis on leg entanglements?
Ben Smallwood
Ben Smallwood
Black belt 4th degreeVerified72 forum posts5190/1000
4 year(s) ago
Thanks for sharing this. I do wonder whether heel hook and kimura injuries really do have about the same prevalence rate or if the data is affected by a disparity in the number of attempts for each. I suspect that, despite the recent popularity of leg locks, kimuras are far more commonly applied during rolls. But I would be interested in data to that point.
Maximilian Hinz
Maximilian HinzOP
White beltVerified12 forum posts0/0
4 year(s) ago
Did you collect data on if they were training Gi or NoGi? I’d assume injuries are more frequent in NoGi due to the emphasis on leg entanglements?
I did not separate injuries by gi/nogi- Next time, that should definitely be done!
Maximilian Hinz
Maximilian HinzOP
White beltVerified12 forum posts0/0
4 year(s) ago
Thanks for sharing this. I do wonder whether heel hook and kimura injuries really do have about the same prevalence rate or if the data is affected by a disparity in the number of attempts for each. I suspect that, despite the recent popularity of leg locks, kimuras are far more commonly applied during rolls. But I would be interested in data to that point.
I agree. I do think that armbars and kimuras are one the submissions that are taught at the earliest stages and there may be considered "safe for beginners" and are also applied most often. I think the reason heel hooks are so high on the list is that heel hooks may not hurt until injuries occur whereas other injuries have a wide range of being of being very uncomfortable before they injure the athlete they are applied to.
Nick Tyau
Nick Tyau
Black belt 1st degreeVerified314 forum posts4290/1000
4 year(s) ago
I agree. I do think that armbars and kimuras are one the submissions that are taught at the earliest stages and there may be considered 'safe for beginners' and are also applied most often. I think the reason heel hooks are so high on the list is that heel hooks may not hurt until injuries occur whereas other injuries have a wide range of being of being very uncomfortable before they injure the athlete they are applied to.
I wonder if this will change in the future as heel hook instruction continues improve and as it’s taught earlier in one’s journey. People may recognize sooner that they need to tap once they get into those positions
Michael Buckman-Cowling
Michael Buckman-Cowling
Black belt 1st degreeVerified28 forum posts3870/1000
4 year(s) ago
Hey guys and girls, last year I shared a link to survey on injuries in BJJ. Because of all of your help we managed to collect data from over 1000 BJJ athletes. The results have just been published and are available under the following link: https://journals.sagepub.[...]1211062568 I also posted a short summary on my instagram @athletesmd Thanks again for your help!
Nice study, love to see the stats
Mikey Page
Mikey Page
Purple beltVerified106 forum posts2550/400
4 year(s) ago
Very interesting on the ACL being a injury leading to a long time out. I work with injured military persons and athletes as my day job. I found 1 year+ to be optimal before returning to sport. With studies suggesting that delaying return to sport to post 12 months leads to a 50% reduction in ACL re-rupture. Not sure what the data would be on the BJJ demographic. We have a BPG (Best Practice Guideline) we follow upon successful surgery for the ACL. I would be interested in what the athletes strength training routine is? As a good strength training protocol does help in reducing the chance of injury. Not eliminating it I might add. Which leads me to think, if they are strength training are they training across the full force velocity curve in the gym? Very interesting though. Thank you for sharing.

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