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Travelling worldwide to train and coach
3 year(s) ago • 8829 views • 19 replies
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Aside from Christian, who else does this? Travelling world-wide to train and coach? This is one of my bucket list things to do. So far I've trained & coached in several countries but would like to add more in 2023-4. Where have you been and has the experience been overall positive? Where would you NOT return again?
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I've taught in the Philippines, Costa Rica, St. Barts, Ireland, Iceland, and all over the US (Arizona, Texas, Illinois, Tennessee, Florida, Maine, New Hampshire, California, New York, Pennsylvania). I personally wouldn't go back to Iceland. As much as I loved being there and everything we did, it was expensive AF to be there.
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I think Priit Mihkelson must be one of the most active in the world to travel and coach at the moment. His schedule is just insane.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I've taught (and actually gotten paid for it) in Northern Finland. Just a couple of familiar locations. I think that's pretty good for a brown belt with no name or skill. Would be really to cool to be able to travel to foreign places to teach. Even if it just covered travel expenses.
Would not want to do it as often as Priit does. That's just crazy. :D
Would not want to do it as often as Priit does. That's just crazy. :D
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I think Priit Mihkelson must be one of the most active in the world to travel and coach at the moment. His schedule is just insane.
I agree and I think that's one extreme end that I can't handle as airports and flights (on-time or delayed) aren't my favorite pastime. If Priit's schedule represents one extreme while someone who has never left their home gym is the other, I'd like to be somewhere in the 45-65% zone and slow-travel my way to see more than just the 4 walls of a gym from morning to night.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I've taught (and actually gotten paid for it) in Northern Finland. Just a couple of familiar locations. I think that's pretty good for a brown belt with no name or skill. Would be really to cool to be able to travel to foreign places to teach. Even if it just covered travel expenses. Would not want to do it as often as Priit does. That's just crazy. :D
Yes, and he's got it down to a science of one-bag travel with and without family in tow. It must be very challenging
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Aside from Christian, who else does this? Travelling world-wide to train and coach? This is one of my bucket list things to do. So far I've trained & coached in several countries but would like to add more in 2023-4. Where have you been and has the experience been overall positive? Where would you NOT return again?
I'm working on it. I've been taking a leaf from Christian's book and setting up camps in places I want to visit anyway, where a bunch of my friends live, while getting paid to do it (and paying yet more friends to also come and teach, with the entirely unsubtle ulterior motive that I want to hang out with them too). ;)
I started running small camps at my home gym in 2019, which has built up nicely. Last year, I ran one in Hamburg, to test if I could get something sorted outside the UK.
My eventual goal is organising two or three camps a year in various countries, plus another two or three at my gym in Bristol. :D
I started running small camps at my home gym in 2019, which has built up nicely. Last year, I ran one in Hamburg, to test if I could get something sorted outside the UK.
My eventual goal is organising two or three camps a year in various countries, plus another two or three at my gym in Bristol. :D
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I'm working on it. I've been taking a leaf from Christian's book and setting up camps in places I want to visit anyway, where a bunch of my friends live, while getting paid to do it (and paying yet more friends to also come and teach, with the entirely unsubtle ulterior motive that I want to hang out with them too). ;) I started running small camps at my home gym in 2019, which has built up nicely. Last year, I ran one in Hamburg, to test if I could get something sorted outside the UK. My eventual goal is organising two or three camps a year in various countries, plus another two or three at my gym in Bristol. :D
Sounds like the way for the Nomadic BJJer
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
My friend Mighele Valente and his girlfriend Grace Brown are currently travelling all round Europe and have been for the last 12 or so months. I think they are currently in Morrocco and doing it in a camper van.
Now thats the life, travel and training.
Now thats the life, travel and training.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Does Charles Harriott ever post on here? He's worked it out really well too, he and Natasha are constantly travelling the world doing seminars. Their respective Instagram accounts makes their life look pretty awesome (and well deserved, they're good teachers and cool people). :D
I should ask him more about it next time I see him. Though I think "be a really good black belt with great communication skills and a fun style, plus business acumen" are the main requirements for the whole "travel around teaching BJJ" lifestyle, judging by the people I've seen do this well (e.g., Charles, Christian, Chris P, etc )
I should ask him more about it next time I see him. Though I think "be a really good black belt with great communication skills and a fun style, plus business acumen" are the main requirements for the whole "travel around teaching BJJ" lifestyle, judging by the people I've seen do this well (e.g., Charles, Christian, Chris P, etc )
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I would like to do it but it's just not going to happen without some selling.
E.g. I think (in my opinion LOL) adequately that I'm a decent coach. Feedback from camps etc is positive.
I have left a note in several places e.g. social media, podcasts etc that "contact for seminars" because generally I'm open for invitations.
However, during 3 years I've been a blackbelt, having Globetrotters videos up etc I've yet to receive A SINGLE invitation in the proper style of
"Hey, what would it take to get you to a seminar in -location- at -time-?"
(I'm not counting BJJ-friends and acquintances saying "maybe I should talk to my coach about getting you" or "are you travelling X so maybe do a free seminar)
ZERO!
I'm not bitter about it (maybe just a wee tiny bit ;) ) - it's totally understandable that e.g. Priit, Charles, Chris, Liisi & Vova etc are essentially offering the same (or better) thing while being also deliberately public and consistent about it.
So Vince - unless you have some BJJ notoriety OR create it by working systematically, don't get your hopes up for people wanting "some blackbelt to do a seminar".
It's actually same thing for my own gym - I'm happy to accept visitors AND guest seminars for living costs etc HOWEVER I'm very critical about having expensive paid seminars. E.g. I turned down a Robert Degle seminar. Degle is GREAT. I like him as a teacher. However just pure math for how much it'll cost my gym and how much "benefit" my gym gets from him teaching 2x1.5 hours (compared to me and other coaches trying to teach a trash version of "his stuff" based on his Instagram) did not work out in the favor of doing the seminar.
Christian has talked about it in nice terms. The "knowledge" era of 90's and 00's of seminars is over. You as a teacher need to offer an "experience package" that actually is valued by the inviting gym for whatever reasons.
I'd love to have you in my gym Vince :) If you visit Estonia I'd me most happy to cover some costs of visiting my town, show you around, exchange experience, stories and knowledge etc. However if you'd also say that e.g. on top of some costs you'd want 1000 Euros of pocket money (which, considering your or anyones time is not a lot AT ALL for e.g. 2x2 hour classes) I would likely turn it down. And I understand people view myself in a similar way.
E.g. I think (in my opinion LOL) adequately that I'm a decent coach. Feedback from camps etc is positive.
I have left a note in several places e.g. social media, podcasts etc that "contact for seminars" because generally I'm open for invitations.
However, during 3 years I've been a blackbelt, having Globetrotters videos up etc I've yet to receive A SINGLE invitation in the proper style of
"Hey, what would it take to get you to a seminar in -location- at -time-?"
(I'm not counting BJJ-friends and acquintances saying "maybe I should talk to my coach about getting you" or "are you travelling X so maybe do a free seminar)
ZERO!
I'm not bitter about it (maybe just a wee tiny bit ;) ) - it's totally understandable that e.g. Priit, Charles, Chris, Liisi & Vova etc are essentially offering the same (or better) thing while being also deliberately public and consistent about it.
So Vince - unless you have some BJJ notoriety OR create it by working systematically, don't get your hopes up for people wanting "some blackbelt to do a seminar".
It's actually same thing for my own gym - I'm happy to accept visitors AND guest seminars for living costs etc HOWEVER I'm very critical about having expensive paid seminars. E.g. I turned down a Robert Degle seminar. Degle is GREAT. I like him as a teacher. However just pure math for how much it'll cost my gym and how much "benefit" my gym gets from him teaching 2x1.5 hours (compared to me and other coaches trying to teach a trash version of "his stuff" based on his Instagram) did not work out in the favor of doing the seminar.
Christian has talked about it in nice terms. The "knowledge" era of 90's and 00's of seminars is over. You as a teacher need to offer an "experience package" that actually is valued by the inviting gym for whatever reasons.
I'd love to have you in my gym Vince :) If you visit Estonia I'd me most happy to cover some costs of visiting my town, show you around, exchange experience, stories and knowledge etc. However if you'd also say that e.g. on top of some costs you'd want 1000 Euros of pocket money (which, considering your or anyones time is not a lot AT ALL for e.g. 2x2 hour classes) I would likely turn it down. And I understand people view myself in a similar way.
Edited 3 year(s) ago
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
The key to selling seminars is to do belt promotions and/or be famous. I stopped doing belt promotions so I stopped getting invited to teach seminars :D
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
The 'knowledge' era of 90's and 00's of seminars is over. You as a teacher need to offer an 'experience package' that actually is valued by the inviting gym for whatever reasons.
I think seminars are a dying breed. I think if you're a bjj celebrity of some sort, maybe there's a market for it, but I've never been a huge fan of them.
The reality is that effective jiu-jitsu is fairly boring, at least for most of us mere mortals, but seminars are typically sold as having the ability to make you into this bjj savage after just 2 hours of trying to get a peek at, say, Relson Gracie rambling off some random information, then it takes you 5 minutes to fight your way across a way too crowded room to find your little postage stamp where you will "drill" the "move" with your way-too-talkative-yet-also-incompetent blue belt partner, and maybe at the end you can get a picture with Relson, for $230.
Maybe it's worth it for some people?
But for the rest of us unknown Shmos out there, this format isn't gonna work like that. You have to do something different, but I'm not sure what.
The reality is that effective jiu-jitsu is fairly boring, at least for most of us mere mortals, but seminars are typically sold as having the ability to make you into this bjj savage after just 2 hours of trying to get a peek at, say, Relson Gracie rambling off some random information, then it takes you 5 minutes to fight your way across a way too crowded room to find your little postage stamp where you will "drill" the "move" with your way-too-talkative-yet-also-incompetent blue belt partner, and maybe at the end you can get a picture with Relson, for $230.
Maybe it's worth it for some people?
But for the rest of us unknown Shmos out there, this format isn't gonna work like that. You have to do something different, but I'm not sure what.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I think seminars are a dying breed
Possibly: I have largely switched over to attending (and organising) camps. I find there's a much higher chance of me picking up a few useful details from a whole load of different instructors, as opposed to just one.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Possibly: I have largely switched over to attending (and organising) camps.
We have camp space. We should talk :).
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
We have camp space. We should talk :).
I'm always looking for more venues, so I'll definitely keep that in mind. :D
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Does Charles Harriott ever post on here? He's worked it out really well too, he and Natasha are constantly travelling the world doing seminars. Their respective Instagram accounts makes their life look pretty awesome (and well deserved, they're good teachers and cool people). :D I should ask him more about it next time I see him. Though I think 'be a really good black belt with great communication skills and a fun style, plus business acumen' are the main requirements for the whole 'travel around teaching BJJ' lifestyle, judging by the people I've seen do this well (e.g., Charles, Christian, Chris P, etc )
yes his Insta looks amazing and adds fuel to the travel Fomo & he has coaching gigs lined up one after the next #notjealous #much
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I would like to do it but it's just not going to happen without some selling. E.g. I think (in my opinion LOL) adequately that I'm a decent coach. Feedback from camps etc is positive. I have left a note in several places e.g. social media, podcasts etc that 'contact for seminars' because generally I'm open for invitations. However, during 3 years I've been a blackbelt, having Globetrotters videos up etc I've yet to receive A SINGLE invitation in the proper style of 'Hey, what would it take to get you to a seminar in -location- at -time-?' (I'm not counting BJJ-friends and acquintances saying 'maybe I should talk to my coach about getting you' or 'are you travelling X so maybe do a free seminar) ZERO! I'm not bitter about it (maybe just a wee tiny bit ;) ) - it's totally understandable that e.g. Priit, Charles, Chris, Liisi & Vova etc are essentially offering the same (or better) thing while being also deliberately public and consistent about it. So Vince - unless you have some BJJ notoriety OR create it by working systematically, don't get your hopes up for people wanting 'some blackbelt to do a seminar'. It's actually same thing for my own gym - I'm happy to accept visitors AND guest seminars for living costs etc HOWEVER I'm very critical about having expensive paid seminars. E.g. I turned down a Robert Degle seminar. Degle is GREAT. I like him as a teacher. However just pure math for how much it'll cost my gym and how much 'benefit' my gym gets from him teaching 2x1.5 hours (compared to me and other coaches trying to teach a trash version of 'his stuff' based on his Instagram) did not work out in the favor of doing the seminar. Christian has talked about it in nice terms. The 'knowledge' era of 90's and 00's of seminars is over. You as a teacher need to offer an 'experience package' that actually is valued by the inviting gym for whatever reasons. I'd love to have you in my gym Vince :) If you visit Estonia I'd me most happy to cover some costs of visiting my town, show you around, exchange experience, stories and knowledge etc. However if you'd also say that e.g. on top of some costs you'd want 1000 Euros of pocket money (which, considering your or anyones time is not a lot AT ALL for e.g. 2x2 hour classes) I would likely turn it down. And I understand people view myself in a similar way.
I've already coached in Australia, Thailand, UK, Norway and Portugal. My movements are somewhat restricted by my passport limitations due to visas, etc. but I haven't encountered any hurdles that has turned me away. I don't plan to be a full-on travellers but a couple of weeks here and there to break the monotony of coaching at the home gym is always welcomed and fun. So yeah, no aspirations of being called up 24/7 Priit-style - that's way too much airport visits for me. I'd like to plan something once every 2-3 months if possible.
I've organized training camps for an international audience since '07-'18 so I have some experience handling the logistics, etc that doesn't phase me anymore. I've done everything from online A&P for the camp, scheduling, sourcing event shirts/gear, mid-camp events, meals, transport, room n board, special diets, family group stays, hotel vs hostel vs airbnb preferences, people getting lost, finding said lost people (participants and instructors), arranging transport from A to B, reconnaissance for venues in other countries, arranging rentals in different languages, even helping to coaching non-English speaking participants in bad Portuguese, or other languages that I don't communicate well, etc.
And thank you for your kind offer/consideration if I pull off an Estonia visit! I extend the same to you if you are ever in this part of the world.
I've organized training camps for an international audience since '07-'18 so I have some experience handling the logistics, etc that doesn't phase me anymore. I've done everything from online A&P for the camp, scheduling, sourcing event shirts/gear, mid-camp events, meals, transport, room n board, special diets, family group stays, hotel vs hostel vs airbnb preferences, people getting lost, finding said lost people (participants and instructors), arranging transport from A to B, reconnaissance for venues in other countries, arranging rentals in different languages, even helping to coaching non-English speaking participants in bad Portuguese, or other languages that I don't communicate well, etc.
And thank you for your kind offer/consideration if I pull off an Estonia visit! I extend the same to you if you are ever in this part of the world.
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Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Does Charles Harriott ever post on here? He's worked it out really well too, he and Natasha are constantly travelling the world doing seminars. Their respective Instagram accounts makes their life look pretty awesome (and well deserved, they're good teachers and cool people).
I like Charles and Natasha a lot. I had the chance to hang out with them a bit at the Globetrotters Arizona camp this past year, but it seems like they're sticking to one area for now (Florida).
I think the seminar circuit is tough.
I think the seminar circuit is tough.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I like Charles and Natasha a lot. I had the chance to hang out with them a bit at the Globetrotters Arizona camp this past year, but it seems like they're sticking to one area for now (Florida). I think the seminar circuit is tough.
Yeah, I mainly see them at Globetrotter camps too (also played D&D with Charles a few times, randomly). Hopefully I can get them down to the camp I'm running in Munich later this year.


