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Powelly
Powelly
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2 year(s) ago
I’m in the process of setting my own club up and am after some advice on:

1) attracting members
2) retention rates
3) anything else that people have learnt that they think would help


Honey Badger
Honey Badger
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified256 forum posts9745/1000
2 year(s) ago
At the beginning there were many days that nobody showed. I joined a long time friend who had his own tae kwon do/Muay Thai academy. I only taught one day a week to start, and again took me a while to build it up.

I had a name in the area also, but a lot of competition as well. Get the word out, advertise, and don’t get frustrated!
Bobby McMasters
Bobby McMasters
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1272 forum posts12800/1000
2 year(s) ago
I’m in the process of setting my own club up and am after some advice on: 1) attracting members 2) retention rates 3) anything else that people have learnt that they think would help
1) social media posts are free advertising.
2) people cycle through all the time. I'd advise you to have a solid, beginner-oriented class.
3) be consistent, get good people to help you out, and run a professional program.

Good luck!
Vince Choo
Vince Choo
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1126 forum posts21045/1000
2 year(s) ago
Depends a lot on your location. Are you renting a dedicated space? Subletting an existing studio space?
Are you in a urban or suburban community? Where are your nearest competitors (other BJJ clubs) in your area? Are they within 3km or closer? etc. These are some factors that will help determine what kind of advertising & promotions you need
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
2 year(s) ago
Don't go too big too soon. I started Artemis BJJ in a small matted room upstairs at a weights gym, £10 an hour rent, 1 class a week. Kept doing that until I had enough fees to run another class, then again and again.

When we outgrew that room, I waited until I could some sessions in the bigger space downstairs, added those. Eventually we outgrew that too.

It took about 5 years, then I could go full time in a venue where I paid by the month. I've lived off purely BJJ now since 2019. Never lost money, because I grew the school organically.
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Powelly
PowellyOP
Brown beltVerified18 forum posts1310/700
2 year(s) ago
Don't go too big too soon. I started Artemis BJJ in a small matted room upstairs at a weights gym, £10 an hour rent, 1 class a week. Kept doing that until I had enough fees to run another class, then again and again. When we outgrew that room, I waited until I could some sessions in the bigger space downstairs, added those. Eventually we outgrew that too. It took about 5 years, then I could go full time in a venue where I paid by the month. I've lived off purely BJJ now since 2019. Never lost money, because I grew the school organically.
That’s pretty much what I’m doing. I’m hiring a space in a school with 1 session a week and then building from that when there is a demand.
Dave Cork
Dave Cork
Black beltVerified235 forum posts2250/1000
2 year(s) ago
I’m in the process of setting my own club up and am after some advice on: 1) attracting members 2) retention rates 3) anything else that people have learnt that they think would help
1) The biggest surges I've seen and experienced have been after demos and social media boosts.
2) Retention rates SUCK... But that shouldn't really be a shock. How many whites belts names can you actually remember?... Be honest.
3) Accept the fact that the kids classes are going to be what keeps the doors open. And, you're going to perform worse because your focus is now on other people's improvement rather than your own.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
2 year(s) ago
My school has always been about the adult classes, not the kids. Took us a while to actually start a kids class, which I only did as some of my students are parents and asked for it (I don't run them, one of those students took charge).

But yeah, it seems at a lot of other schools, the kids classes are a big part of it.
William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2143 forum posts25730/1000
2 year(s) ago
If you keep the place fairly clean, keep the shitter clean, and keep some feminine products in the bathroom, female students might not be too disgusted to join up.
Powelly
PowellyOP
Brown beltVerified18 forum posts1310/700
2 year(s) ago
If you keep the place fairly clean, keep the shitter clean, and keep some feminine products in the bathroom, female students might not be too disgusted to join up.
Fingers crossed
Sindre Eide
Sindre Eide
Purple beltVerified86 forum posts4445/400
2 year(s) ago
I ran a gym for 2years and flyers with cupons for 2weeks or 1month free trai img worked well. Also throw up posters around the city. Other than that I visited schools teaching self defence and promoting the gym and used social media to promote it.
After that you need a good plan and program to keep people interested and comming back. I like to show things good for street defence on the first weeks because people can relate to it. Also I always teach one submission because that is what people find cool and can lock them in.
Brian Van Miltenburg
Brian Van Miltenburg
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified117 forum posts6070/1000
2 year(s) ago
The main principle of running a healthy club/gym is to run it like a business. Very often I see people run their gyms like theyre a group of friends doing jiu jitsu, or like a hobby. Which is fine obviously, but if you are going to try and make a living, this wont cut it.

Brian Van Miltenburg
Brian Van Miltenburg
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified117 forum posts6070/1000
2 year(s) ago
For me what works really well is running a beginners program. This will help with retention as well as introducing new clients to the sport gently. Dont throw them in with the big dogs, you will lose a lot of good potential clients and stick with the same old crew.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
2 year(s) ago
I see people run their gyms like theyre a group of friends doing jiu jitsu, or like a hobby. Which is fine obviously, but if you are going to try and make a living, this wont cut it.
Disagree. That's exactly how I run it, and I've lived off purely BJJ since 2018. To each their own, but I really dislike corporate BJJ training environments where the focus is on money and profit.

To be fair, I am very fortunate in that my overheads are super low (no car, no kids, I don't drink and I've paid off my mortgage). So I can understand why gym owners with a lot of costs might go the more super business route.
Brian Van Miltenburg
Brian Van Miltenburg
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified117 forum posts6070/1000
2 year(s) ago
Being passionated about it is one thing but if you have to make a living out of it, you are going to have to charge people for your services.
I dont like the big coorperation type of jiu jitsu business either. I like to have my passion for jiu jitsu and teaching shine through in my business. But I dont want to be poor for it. I have Kids to feed and a rent to pay.
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Matt
Matt
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified46 forum posts1875/1000
2 year(s) ago
I read small dojo big profits by mike massie and also listen to his podcast. I learnt heaps and now have a full time dojo with over 300 people a week coming through the door.
Good luck with it all

I also have an entire dvd on bjj fanatics which has all my systems and process on it if you’re interested
Matt
Matt
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified46 forum posts1875/1000
2 year(s) ago
I read small dojo big profits by mike massie and also listen to his podcast. I learnt heaps and now have a full time dojo with over 300 people a week coming through the door.
Good luck with it all

I also have an entire dvd on bjj fanatics which has all my systems and process on it if you’re interested
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
2 year(s) ago
I'm not interested in a business book, but I AM interested that you competed in judo at the 2008 Olympics. Cool!
Brian Van Miltenburg
Brian Van Miltenburg
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified117 forum posts6070/1000
2 year(s) ago
I read small dojo big profits by mike massie and also listen to his podcast. I learnt heaps and now have a full time dojo with over 300 people a week coming through the door. Good luck with it all I also have an entire dvd on bjj fanatics which has all my systems and process on it if you’re interested
Thank you for the tip, ive had a look at it and it already seems to fit my personal believes on how to run a gym.

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