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Any 'normal' jiu jitsu practitioners here?

6 year(s) ago • 1472 views • 60 replies

Adam Meindel
Adam Meindel
Black belt 1st degreeVerified150 forum posts3750/1000
6 year(s) ago
By 'normal' I mean everyday working stiff schmoe's like myself who don't compete but train regularly for fun/health/friends/self defence/etc?

Where my Normies at? :D
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4321 forum posts39320/1000
6 year(s) ago
I'll compete whenever I have the opportunity (really not very often) but apart from that, I just train 3 times a week for fun, health and social aspects :)

Did long hours, 5-6 days a week for over a decade but life happens at some point.
Adam Meindel
Adam MeindelOP
Black belt 1st degreeVerified150 forum posts3750/1000
6 year(s) ago
Very cool, Christian. And I'm certainly not opposed to competing locally, but traveling is just a pain in my ass.

If I can do well against successful competitors at the gyms I train at, then that is good enough of a 'litmus test' for me.

P.S.: Your 'Super Fundamental Principles' video is absolute gold and should be required viewing for every practitioner. Much respect. :)
Alexander King-Zhang
Alexander King-Zhang
Purple beltVerified661 forum posts2020/400
6 year(s) ago
Yup, i train 3 times a week and no i'm not training more. Ever.
I have a job, this is a hobby. It's a great hobby but i don't confuse the two.
I get annoyed when people essentially describe the answer to every BJJ problem as some variant of "more training / more drilling".
- My guard passing suck - train more
- I can't hit a D'Arce choke - drill more
- People escape my armbar - do it 10 times a day
No that isn't the answer. The challenge for a hobbyist is how to maximise the value of the 3 days they do train, not to simply add more days and train like a pro whilst the mortgage goes unpaid. I also love things like the Super Fundamental Principles because that's exactly how a hobbyist can squeeze more out of our three sessions a week, by applying broad principles to everything.
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4764 forum posts34325/1000
6 year(s) ago
By 'normal' I mean everyday working stiff schmoe's like myself who don't compete but train regularly for fun/health/friends/self defence/etc? Where my Normies at? :D
Me
Adam Meindel
Adam MeindelOP
Black belt 1st degreeVerified150 forum posts3750/1000
6 year(s) ago
Absolutely, Alex.

I'm always trying to train smarter, not harder. One of the reasons why I think the typical class 'warmup' seems like a waste of mat time - I get sufficiently warmed up during class drilling.

Lately I'm more execute-the-concept-not-the-technique oriented. I seem to get better/faster results that way than trying to know 1000 different techniques. Knowing one underlying concept that can be applied to a bunch of techniques is what I'm after.
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Matthew  Campbell
Matthew Campbell
Black beltVerified25 forum posts2130/1000
6 year(s) ago
Yeah I just train for self-defense as well I use the cage fight but at 36 I gave that up now I just go to know that when I’m in the bar I got the best shot at going home if a fight breaks out. Although the guys I train with say I’m pretty good. I mean I guess at 140 pounds of being a brown belt the fact that I can hang with 220 pound 240 pound black belts. Is enough for me . I don’t compete anymore I’m not out to win any medals. At this point I show up two to three times a week just to make sure I can still hang with the big dogs
T.j McMenamin
T.j McMenamin
Black beltVerified40 forum posts1715/1000
6 year(s) ago
I suppose everybody's perception of normal is different. I train 5 to 6 days a week, whilst running my own business, and have 5 kids btween 10 and 16 years of age whom all train in bjj. I competed as much as possible over the last 5 years.. but have been out of tbe comp circuit for 7 months due to injury. Comps are not for everyone but I like to push myself and thats fine for me. I know as I get way older that will decline but I will keep chuggging along till then.. Normal is all subjective perspective opinion guys. One guys meat is another's poison.. Roll on till ye canny anymore.. show up..tog out..bump fists.. and keep moving..Oss te fook.
Harley Smith
Harley Smith
Brown beltVerified65 forum posts920/700
6 year(s) ago
I train 2 days a week. I would train more, but it is tough with work and the family. My kids train 3 days a week.

My 7 year old is doing his first competition tomorrow, and I told him I would do it with him, so it will be my first comp too. I wrestled in HS so it isn't my first tournament, but it is my first BJJ tournament.
Ben Wynne
Ben Wynne
Black belt 1st degreeVerified291 forum posts4820/1000
6 year(s) ago
I'm a primary school teacher, plus a dad so 2 days training, teaching 1 class a week plus open mat on Saturday morning basically accounts for all my spare time that isn't allocated to family or work
Alexander King-Zhang
Alexander King-Zhang
Purple beltVerified661 forum posts2020/400
6 year(s) ago
Absolutely, Alex. I'm always trying to train smarter, not harder. One of the reasons why I think the typical class 'warmup' seems like a waste of mat time - I get sufficiently warmed up during class drilling. Lately I'm more execute-the-concept-not-the-technique oriented. I seem to get better/faster results that way than trying to know 1000 different techniques. Knowing one underlying concept that can be applied to a bunch of techniques is what I'm after.
Priit mihkelson says that losing is fun, when you know why you lost - I totally agree. If you get the concepts but lose to someone with slicker technique, it's still enjoyable.

In contrast, I know people who had fantastic technique and timing in certain areas, but their opponent just funnelled them out of their comfort zone. There's nothing fun about losing because you didn't know what the flip was going on and suddenly you're on your ass with a sharp pain coming from your ankle.
George Jones
George Jones
Black belt 1st degreeVerified85 forum posts15275/1000
6 year(s) ago
I have a job and a family. I train when I can. I think most of the people in the jiu-Jitsu community are regular folks. Not everyone is meant to be a world champion or an academy owner. You can still have a great impact by helping the hobbyists, future champions, and possible legends.
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Ben Wynne
Ben Wynne
Black belt 1st degreeVerified291 forum posts4820/1000
6 year(s) ago
Not me. I'm abnormal, but I'm okay with that.
I think anyone that's stuck with Bjj for a while is going to be a bit 'abnormal'
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
6 year(s) ago
I don't compete (tried it once, hated it, but haven't completely ruled out giving it another go) and I primarily train for fun. However, as BJJ is also my job, not sure I quite fit the 'normal' criteria. ;)
Tatu Piispanen
Tatu Piispanen
Black beltVerified1355 forum posts10295/1000
6 year(s) ago
By 'normal' I mean everyday working stiff schmoe's like myself who don't compete but train regularly for fun/health/friends/self defence/etc?
Substitute self defence with competition and the description fits me. Even the "stiff" is an adequate adjective. :D

(I just think competition is a good way to focus & improve, and doesn't require crazy training hours either when entering amateur events.)
Vince Choo
Vince Choo
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1126 forum posts21045/1000
6 year(s) ago
me
Jiu Jitsu Tues, Wed, Thu, Sat = mostly coaching and some rolling is plenty enough for me.
I try to squeeze in 2 days of conditioning if I have no injuries and have energy
or no major drama at the gym or life
or no dinner or travel plans to prep for
did all my (traditional karate) competitions for 15-20 years when I was younger so I don't have the competition bug in me anymore
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Adam Meindel
Adam MeindelOP
Black belt 1st degreeVerified150 forum posts3750/1000
6 year(s) ago
Great replies from everyone. As I was spot checking profiles out of curiosity, I was getting mainly ones with pics from high profile tournaments, victory hand raises, podium pics, etc. I started wondering if this site was mainly geared for competitors. lol

Glad to see it's a mix.
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Felix Adler
Felix Adler
Black belt 1st degreeVerified17 forum posts2185/1000
6 year(s) ago
Most BJJ practitioners do it for fun, I guess that the regular dudew simply do not care enough to open an account here.
Michael Meistrich
Michael Meistrich
Brown beltVerified34 forum posts1585/700
6 year(s) ago
i work 50+ hours a week 6 days a week. im lucky i can train at all at the morning class. doing 2 days a week now but just threw my back out so i have to take a few weeks off.
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4764 forum posts34325/1000
6 year(s) ago
i work 50+ hours a week 6 days a week. im lucky i can train at all at the morning class. doing 2 days a week now but just threw my back out so i have to take a few weeks off.
Been there a thousand times till I had the surgery and even then I am always in some form of pain. Nerve damage too.
Good news, it will pass, bad news it will be back. Heal up warrior
Christopher Bradford
Christopher Bradford
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified47 forum posts1725/1000
6 year(s) ago
I guess I'm normal? I train every day, but I'm a grown-ass man with a couple businesses to run, a wife, and five kids to feed. Nothing wrong with being a regular joe...the vast, vast majority never compete, and honestly in this day and age of open mats and widespread access to different games, the utility of competition tends to decrease as we get older (in my opinion. I competed bi-monthly as a judoka for a decade before even starting bjj, and now get more from an open mat as far as learning and growth than I get from competing).
Alex
Alex
Black beltVerified6 forum posts1875/1000
6 year(s) ago
Average guy here. I work about 47 hours a week, have 2 kids. I train 5x a week, 4 of those days being open mat, nonstop rolling for about 45-60 minutes. 1 day is class. I also teach 3 kids classes and 1 adult during the week, so I train right after teaching kids class. It really does help that my kids also train. During the summer I do more classes because kids are able to stay with me at the school, and I don't have to rush home to get them to bed.
Sho Yoshida
Sho Yoshida
Brown beltVerified4 forum posts1095/700
6 year(s) ago
I guess I'm normal? I train every day, but I'm a grown-ass man with a couple businesses to run, a wife, and five kids to feed. Nothing wrong with being a regular joe...the vast, vast majority never compete, and honestly in this day and age of open mats and widespread access to different games, the utility of competition tends to decrease as we get older (in my opinion. I competed bi-monthly as a judoka for a decade before even starting bjj, and now get more from an open mat as far as learning and growth than I get from competing).
You're not normal brother (lol). The time you put in on the mats while attending to all those responsibilities is definitely beyond a normal schedule of someone training a few times a week. With the fresh black belt, all that hard work is likely an investment toward merging more professional endeavors with your BJJ lifestyle. Coaches are no longer 'normies' once they are teaching and training day-in an day-out while raising kids and not competing.

This is a transitional year for me no longer being just a normie too. I was a regular guy plugged into the corporate+startup world providing for my family before starting jiu-jitsu on a very hobbyist schedule. Now I work together with my professor to grow our team and have cutting edge offerings to complement the level of jiu-jitsu instruction he's been providing the area for over a decade. So long normie life! :)
Jorgen Matsi
Jorgen Matsi
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified1772 forum posts17315/1000
6 year(s) ago
I personally don't think BJJ competition holds much greater risk of injury than sparring if YOU yourself are sensible, can tap early at competition etc. So I like to take part in 1-2 competitions every year even when my prep/current level is very low.
Corey Boyle
Corey Boyle
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified8 forum posts2670/1000
6 year(s) ago
I agree but full speed competition has a greater risk of random freak injuries that have nothing to do with submissions.

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