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Can we talk about OSS!?

6 year(s) ago • 13640 views • 145 replies

Jason Demelas
Jason Demelas
Black beltVerified67 forum posts5525/1000
5 year(s) ago
I am from a Carlson school, and I've OSS'ed more than you people can believe. However, BJJ is not kyokushinkai karate. They don't OSS! in Japan. They don't. No one does. Time to let things die, frens.
I came up in a Carlson school as well, it was part of the environment, that I naturally adopted during training.

It’s funny. In our pursuits of trying new things and meeting new cultures. We adopt the mannerisms of the people we find ourselves wanting to be accepted by..

Training with Master Cavalcanti “Carlson Gracie” Las Vegas

Oss was used to confirm statements and acknowledge understanding of a subject or instruction given by my Brazilian instructor.


Fast forward 16 years. I believe in progression and common sense

Boeing to mats, pictures on walls, and other traditions are not my cup of tea anymore. I want to warm up slap hands and get it

To sum up this long winded note.

I respect those that like to stay traditional, and prefer to move on and evolve

Jiu jitsu has evolved 200% with contributions from all over the world. It no longer belongs to Brazil or its earlier source of Japan

Just an opinion
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
Black belt 4th degreeVerified762 forum posts4065/1000
5 year(s) ago
I came up in a Carlson school as well, it was part of the environment, that I naturally adopted during training. It’s funny. In our pursuits of trying new things and meeting new cultures. We adopt the mannerisms of the people we find ourselves wanting to be accepted by.. Training with Master Cavalcanti “Carlson Gracie” Las Vegas Oss was used to confirm statements and acknowledge understanding of a subject or instruction given by my Brazilian instructor. Fast forward 16 years. I believe in progression and common sense Boeing to mats, pictures on walls, and other traditions are not my cup of tea anymore. I want to warm up slap hands and get it To sum up this long winded note. I respect those that like to stay traditional, and prefer to move on and evolve Jiu jitsu has evolved 200% with contributions from all over the world. It no longer belongs to Brazil or its earlier source of Japan Just an opinion
Oss wasn't being used at any Carlson affiliated gyms I trained at in the early days (early 2000s).
Deepu
Deepu
Black beltVerified547 forum posts6410/1000
5 year(s) ago
Oss wasn't being used at any Carlson affiliated gyms I trained at in the early days (early 2000s).
We were ossing then and still ossing now. Even Sr. was ossing. Osssssssssssssss!
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
Black belt 4th degreeVerified762 forum posts4065/1000
5 year(s) ago
We were ossing then and still ossing now. Even Sr. was ossing. Osssssssssssssss!
At the Chicago HQs? I never knew that or heard that at other locations, I swear! So this all started with Carlson??!? LOL! I had no idea.
Deepu
Deepu
Black beltVerified547 forum posts6410/1000
5 year(s) ago
At the Chicago HQs? I never knew that or heard that at other locations, I swear! So this all started with Carlson??!? LOL! I had no idea.
I have ossed with Jr, but not at Chicago HQ ... maybe it was because I initiated it lol. I have similarly ossed with Julio Foca Fernandez, again, maybe I started it. As for Sr, I remember a lot of porras but can't remember any osses. You're making me second guess myself. Oss was common in Brazil though, heard it a lot there.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
Black belt 4th degreeVerified762 forum posts4065/1000
5 year(s) ago
I have ossed with Jr, but not at Chicago HQ ... maybe it was because I initiated it lol. I have similarly ossed with Julio Foca Fernandez, again, maybe I started it. As for Sr, I remember a lot of porras but can't remember any osses. You're making me second guess myself. Oss was common in Brazil though, heard it a lot there.
LOL! Never second guess yourself!!!

If it was Julio Foca Fernandez then I would have thought for sure the BJJ Revolution team would be doing it and I don't ever remember hearing it from them.

We need to dig into who started this. And if it is, indeeed, Deepu then damn you Deepu.

Damn you.
Jason Demelas
Jason Demelas
Black beltVerified67 forum posts5525/1000
5 year(s) ago
Oss wasn't being used at any Carlson affiliated gyms I trained at in the early days (early 2000s).
Sure was at my school 100%.

I didn’t know what the hell an oss was. I just fell into line with the rest of my class
Scott Hercules
Scott Hercules
Brown beltVerified5 forum posts1275/700
5 year(s) ago
I’ve trained at gyms that “Oss” was very prominently used. I’ve also trained at gyms where it is openly mocked. I have no preference either way. When in Rome sort of thing.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
Black belt 4th degreeVerified762 forum posts4065/1000
5 year(s) ago
I’ve trained at gyms that “Oss” was very prominently used. I’ve also trained at gyms where it is openly mocked. I have no preference either way. When in Rome sort of thing.
We are the latter for sure. But, as I'm sure you mostly have guessed, we openly mock most things.

And mostly, we mock ourselves.
Jon Waddle
Jon Waddle
Black belt 1st degreeVerified81 forum posts1895/1000
5 year(s) ago
How about instead we adopt that thing they do when doing kata or breaking boards. KIAI!!
I am a Karate-ka, and we don't break boards. They are far to expensive to go breaking good quality lumber. :D

In all seriousness, we haven't used Osu in years in my Karate classes(Yoshukai and Ashihara lineage). It kinda died out like thanking everyone in Japanese vs English. The only things we do in Japanese in my classes(BJJ, Judo, Sambo & Karate) are technique names, and counting. Other than that, English or Portuguese(if I know the name in Portuguese).
Oisin McCabe
Oisin McCabe
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified49 forum posts1575/1000
5 year(s) ago
How about instead we adopt that thing they do when doing kata or breaking boards. KIAI!! Maybe everyone can do this when shaking hands, walking on the mat, weddings, funerals and for anything really. Of course the hang loose hand
Leave the awkward Shaka alone. Its my signature move.
Edited 5 year(s) ago
Luke McCarron
Luke McCarron
Black beltVerified30 forum posts2145/1000
5 year(s) ago
I have used my fair share of Osu and OSS and although I try not to,

I find old habits die hard and it will depend for me what the coaches expectations are
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"
when we are at home its very informal minimal Ossing but definitely still slips out.
Mike
Mike
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified3 forum posts1815/1000
5 year(s) ago
After literally doing a zoom debate with one of my student's on this topic during lockdown I'm encouraged at the consensus on this thread. Seems like alot of people are using it ironically and not realising that juniors are taking it seriously...

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