It was a joke 😅

IBJJF still have sinister people on their roster.

I'm from a budo background, where conduct and values are very important and also in BJJ, I've been taught that personal qualities matter in promotions. Far from all schools agree. When it comes to promoting instructors, I think there sometimes needs to be a healthy degree of remedy along the lineage, as not to legitimize or help 'immortalize' bad seeds through cemented lineages which might be passed on for longer than we ourselves are around. In some cases, I think the lineage can be 'mended', through putting things into context and taking a clear and explicit stand (as e.g. Fredson Paixao himself could have done) on what's acceptable and not. Good to be transparent in the process. In other cases, I think the lineage would be better off replaced all together and put on the scrap heap instead of being passed on. Raises interesting questions too on what your lineage is and to what extent you could deside that for yourself. Standard seems to be the lineage through who promoted you to BB, even if only a temporary acquaintance. Especially if who really developed you up to that level was not BB+2 him or herself. What if you feel you've developed more after receiving BB than the time up to BB? Lineage is up to negotiation and community acceptance I'd say, where I personally would very much take into account if there was a tarnished lineage to handle. On Beltchecker, I usually don't downvote if a member touches on the subject him or herself and clearly wants to dissociate from the amoral instructor. While I have been known to downvote on instances where the issue is not adressed or is handled as unproblematic.

I saw a disputed profile where a person was a Black Belt under a Black Belt who was under Lloyd Irvin.

Then you probably also saw 'Team Lloyd Irvin' on the profile when it was disputed and that the dispute would be removed if the person clearly stated that there was no present affiliation. I suggest you take the (modern) context of when it was written into account when reading an expression like 'budo', even if you have ever so impressive historical knowledge. If we take another example, if someone says they've live a christian life, don't make a habit of assuming 'You mean like the Spanish inquisition, Salem witch trials and Albigensian Crusade?'.

This thread warrants the big boys! Hold it right there buddy! Gonna need some ID Lets see your IBJJF Certificate

I need some time to process the ethics and morality of these hard questions. Personally though, I explicitly do not support Moya Brand for the owner/founder's checkered history and I'm surprised not more people know about it. Some might not care and most don't know about it I guess. On this matter, is Beltchecker for solely for validating belts or also attaching ethics/morals and associated links to people of questionable character, separated by 1-2 or more degrees?

One of the few things I like about the ibjjf certification, as well as my various usa judo certifications, is that you have to pass a background check, as well as pass a course with safesport (a non-profit organization that basically tells you how to avoid exploitation of children and other vulnerable groups of people at your gym). I hope that maybe we can get something similar here one day when we get our rank certified (i.e. certificate manually verified or whatever) on beltchecker.