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anybody struggeling to keep up with the fast evolution of grappling as a hobbyist and part timer?
3 month(s) ago • 360 views • 14 replies
Brown beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Hy guys, i don't know if it's only me feeling like i am to slow to keep up with the fast evolution of grappling, new techniques and "metas" in the sport. I am just a hobbyist and part time instructor with full time job and family commitments as a father and husband, training and teaching jiu jitsu consistently for more than a decade, but only 3x a week.
I am passionate about Jiu Jitsu and always have been, but under the given circumstances, my time is limited and i don't have time watching the newest instructionals in addition on a regular basis and training more than 3 times a week.
So the learning curve is quite low and mostly i teach and train fundamentals. Of course i visit seminars or host more experienced coaches to improve my and my team's games.
Some may say it's all about priorities and commitment, but i feel like what i do, is already the most i personally can do to have the best balance of working full time (also on weekends every other week), family and other commitments and BJJ. Better embracing the gaps than not training at all, isn't it!?
What's your take on take that topic?
I am passionate about Jiu Jitsu and always have been, but under the given circumstances, my time is limited and i don't have time watching the newest instructionals in addition on a regular basis and training more than 3 times a week.
So the learning curve is quite low and mostly i teach and train fundamentals. Of course i visit seminars or host more experienced coaches to improve my and my team's games.
Some may say it's all about priorities and commitment, but i feel like what i do, is already the most i personally can do to have the best balance of working full time (also on weekends every other week), family and other commitments and BJJ. Better embracing the gaps than not training at all, isn't it!?
What's your take on take that topic?
Black beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Meta's come and go. I'm sure you will do just fine sticking with the (for lack of a better word) "fundamentals". Roger didn't do so bad.
Black beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Maybe this is a personal take, but if you're pushing yourself to do more than is possible given your current life structure it seems like you're headed towards burnout.
I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I can only get on the mat 3x a week and only for the classes I teach (at 6am). I'm a father of 5 with a full time job.
I told my students today that without a focus on fundamentals and basics there is nothing to evolve from.
You build off of a foundation.
When your foundation is strong is gives you the freedom to explore what jiu jitsu can be, and i believe that's how some of these newer techniques and ideologies get developed.
Sometimes the best thing we can do for our students is work the fundamentals and basics until they're as normal as breathing.
Also, I love your growth mindset brother. Your students are lucky to have you. But we all have to sleep sometimes. Make sure you're taking care of yourself and not spreading yourself too thin. That's what's best for you and your students. Coach gets burned out and everyone suffers.
I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I can only get on the mat 3x a week and only for the classes I teach (at 6am). I'm a father of 5 with a full time job.
I told my students today that without a focus on fundamentals and basics there is nothing to evolve from.
You build off of a foundation.
When your foundation is strong is gives you the freedom to explore what jiu jitsu can be, and i believe that's how some of these newer techniques and ideologies get developed.
Sometimes the best thing we can do for our students is work the fundamentals and basics until they're as normal as breathing.
Also, I love your growth mindset brother. Your students are lucky to have you. But we all have to sleep sometimes. Make sure you're taking care of yourself and not spreading yourself too thin. That's what's best for you and your students. Coach gets burned out and everyone suffers.
MircoOP
Brown beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Meta's come and go. I'm sure you will do just fine sticking with the (for lack of a better word) "fundamentals". Roger didn't do so bad.
Thanks for your feedback, appreciate it🙏🏻
MircoOP
Brown beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Maybe this is a personal take, but if you're pushing yourself to do more than is possible given your current life structure it seems like you're headed towards burnout. I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I can only get on the mat 3x a week and only for the classes I teach (at 6am). I'm a father of 5 with a full time job. I told my students today that without a focus on fundamentals and basics there is nothing to evolve from. You build off of a foundation. When your foundation is strong is gives you the freedom to explore what jiu jitsu can be, and i believe that's how some of these newer techniques and ideologies get developed. Sometimes the best thing we can do for our students is work the fundamentals and basics until they're as normal as breathing. Also, I love your growth mindset brother. Your students are lucky to have you. But we all have to sleep sometimes. Make sure you're taking care of yourself and not spreading yourself too thin. That's what's best for you and your students. Coach gets burned out and everyone suffers.
Thanks Justin,
Yeah, we are kind of in the same boat. I am a father of 3 with fulltime job…
I have enough stress on the job everyday, sometimes 12 days in a row, so BJJ is my „happy land“ and decompression for the stress of every day life. I think I found a good way to keep everything balanced, but of course that comes with a price.
I am happy to have a great team and training is fun. It is what it is under the given circumstances: I can’t learn, know, train and teach everything what today‘s Jiu Jitsu and submission grappling has to offer…..
A „burn out“, independent of in the full time profession or hobby/ part time, I definitely will and want to avoid.
Thanks for your opinion Justin, I appreciate it!🙏🏻
Yeah, we are kind of in the same boat. I am a father of 3 with fulltime job…
I have enough stress on the job everyday, sometimes 12 days in a row, so BJJ is my „happy land“ and decompression for the stress of every day life. I think I found a good way to keep everything balanced, but of course that comes with a price.
I am happy to have a great team and training is fun. It is what it is under the given circumstances: I can’t learn, know, train and teach everything what today‘s Jiu Jitsu and submission grappling has to offer…..
A „burn out“, independent of in the full time profession or hobby/ part time, I definitely will and want to avoid.
Thanks for your opinion Justin, I appreciate it!🙏🏻
Black beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Youre among friends brother! As long as youre doing your best its always enough.
MircoOP
Brown beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Youre among friends brother! As long as youre doing your best its always enough.
Of course buddy, always to the best of my knowledge and belief 🙌
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
2 month(s) ago
I apply the 80-20 rule to this. 80 percent of the time basics and 20 percent fun stuff. Its impossible to know all of jiu jitsu, just do the stuff you like. People will say deep half guard is bad, but then the meta changes and all of the sudden deep half guard is king. Whatever, just enjoy yourself.
Purple beltVerified
2 month(s) ago
I don't even worry about the latest and greatest any more. I worry about what I can put in my toolbox and use. That's not to say I completely ignore the latest and greatest because I think it's important to know the basics of those techniques so you can identify when it's about to happen to you or explain it to someone else even if it's not something you use.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 month(s) ago
This is one of the main reasons I like camps. As I run a lot of my own camps now, I can pick a load of instructors I know are into the latest stuff and learn it from them.
Also a big reason I go to Globetrotters camps (unfortunately harder for me to make these days, but hopefully I can find one that works for me next year). Always loads of people well into the current meta, which keeps me aware of it.
I don't care about actually using whatever is current for myself, but I do want to see if it is worth teaching to my students. I've never been somebody who spars loads (and when I do, I'm very picky about who I spar with), so I'm much more focused on teaching.
Also a big reason I go to Globetrotters camps (unfortunately harder for me to make these days, but hopefully I can find one that works for me next year). Always loads of people well into the current meta, which keeps me aware of it.
I don't care about actually using whatever is current for myself, but I do want to see if it is worth teaching to my students. I've never been somebody who spars loads (and when I do, I'm very picky about who I spar with), so I'm much more focused on teaching.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
I think it depends on your goals in BJJ. If you're mainly interested in self-defense or MMA, then old-school BJJ will serve you pretty well and you won't need to constantly watch YouTube and BJJ Fanatics videos to master the latest technical innovations. If you want to compete in gi or no-gi sport grappling, you're going to have to keep up with the current "meta." I don't have time to scour the Internet looking for cutting-edge videos about Inverted Pterodactyl Guard™️ and the Floating Totoro Guard™️, so I just stick to the fundamentals. Many of the speciality techniques that work really well in a pure grappling environment aren't as effective when strikes are allowed, so I only train things that work in vale tudo. People with different goals will probably take a different approach, which is great. Jiu-Jitsu is for everybody.
MircoOP
Brown beltVerified
1 month(s) ago
I think it depends on your goals in BJJ. If you're mainly interested in self-defense or MMA, then old-school BJJ will serve you pretty well and you won't need to constantly watch YouTube and BJJ Fanatics videos to master the latest technical innovations. If you want to compete in gi or no-gi sport grappling, you're going to have to keep up with the current "meta." I don't have time to scour the Internet looking for cutting-edge videos about Inverted Pterodactyl Guard™️ and the Floating Totoro Guard™️, so I just stick to the fundamentals. Many of the speciality techniques that work really well in a pure grappling environment aren't as effective when strikes are allowed, so I only train things that work in vale tudo. People with different goals will probably take a different approach, which is great. Jiu-Jitsu is for everybody.
There are two hearts beating in my chest: on the one hand I train and teach „Jiu Jitsu vs the world“, like fundamentals and vale Tudo, cause I need it for my job in law enforcement, on the other hand I also like to train „ BJJ vs BJJ“ because it’s just fun and relaxing for me (mentally). I am in the same boat: I really have no time to watch instructionals, as I have family commitments and shifts on weekends.
I am at a point where i am totally ok with what I train, teach and learn under the given circumstances and prerequisites. Although we are a recreational team, some of us even win medals in local competitions and even NAGA, so it’s ok for me and our team….😉🙌! Are there teams who train more and have better coaches? Yes , for sure! Are we doing the best under the given circumstances on a recreational level? Yes, we are doing ok!
I am at a point where i am totally ok with what I train, teach and learn under the given circumstances and prerequisites. Although we are a recreational team, some of us even win medals in local competitions and even NAGA, so it’s ok for me and our team….😉🙌! Are there teams who train more and have better coaches? Yes , for sure! Are we doing the best under the given circumstances on a recreational level? Yes, we are doing ok!
Black beltVerified
1 month(s) ago
There are two hearts beating in my chest: on the one hand I train and teach „Jiu Jitsu vs the world“, like fundamentals and vale Tudo, cause I need it for my job in law enforcement, on the other hand I also like to train „ BJJ vs BJJ“ because it’s just fun and relaxing for me (mentally). I am in the same boat: I really have no time to watch instructionals, as I have family commitments and shifts on weekends. I am at a point where i am totally ok with what I train, teach and learn under the given circumstances and prerequisites. Although we are a recreational team, some of us even win medals in local competitions and even NAGA, so it’s ok for me and our team….😉🙌! Are there teams who train more and have better coaches? Yes , for sure! Are we doing the best under the given circumstances on a recreational level? Yes, we are doing ok!
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Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
Hi Mirco, From what I know of you and the team, I think you have found the 'right' BJJ for your needs. Your context determines the techniques so those will be the ones you train and focus on. I doubt you will ever need to use a berimbolo to inside ashi, leg pummel into crab ride back take then spin under for a reverse Woj lock in your line of work. It will be a fun exercise but your profession isn't the place to hold a gentlemanly test of skills. There will always be the latest 'flavour of the month' and in a few month's time something else new will pop up. Follow your instincts and they will point you to concentrate your efforts where it's needed. Happy training!
MircoOP
Brown beltVerified
1 month(s) ago
Hi Mirco, From what I know of you and the team, I think you have found the 'right' BJJ for your needs. Your context determines the techniques so those will be the ones you train and focus on. I doubt you will ever need to use a berimbolo to inside ashi, leg pummel into crab ride back take then spin under for a reverse Woj lock in your line of work. It will be a fun exercise but your profession isn't the place to hold a gentlemanly test of skills. There will always be the latest 'flavour of the month' and in a few month's time something else new will pop up. Follow your instincts and they will point you to concentrate your efforts where it's needed. Happy training!
Thanks Vince, appreciate it!


