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Judo: (should I) look into it :) (?)
6 year(s) ago • 3081 views • 33 replies
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
So for whatever reason (I haven't introspected too much on that) I've been starting to get more and more curious about the art/sport of judo -as it is-.
I used to always go spar / train with judo guys at least couple of times a month to complement my BJJ and MMA before the leg-grab-ban rule. Even competed in a small local tournament once (hit two flying armbars on greenbelts ;)
After the rules changed, I found it was too different from what I needed and then strayed away...
But now I've started to play around with the idea to just pick it up as a side hobby (once the quarantine lifts obv) and get into it as an adult (37) as it is. Try to progress in that specific sport/art, maybe even compete again a couple of times for fun etc...
What do you guys think?
I used to always go spar / train with judo guys at least couple of times a month to complement my BJJ and MMA before the leg-grab-ban rule. Even competed in a small local tournament once (hit two flying armbars on greenbelts ;)
After the rules changed, I found it was too different from what I needed and then strayed away...
But now I've started to play around with the idea to just pick it up as a side hobby (once the quarantine lifts obv) and get into it as an adult (37) as it is. Try to progress in that specific sport/art, maybe even compete again a couple of times for fun etc...
What do you guys think?
VCBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I tried doing that and while Judo itself is a wonderful art and very complementary, it all depends on the Judo dojo that you attend. The majority are into competition and they seem to be split between IJF and Kodokan and have slightly different rules. Look for a dojo that has less politics and more training at a level that you are comfortable with. Expect injuries because being thrown and landing incorrectly will be commonplace. I know people with separated shoulders, fractured collarbones, almost everyone has neck injury issues and lower back injuries. What doesn't kill you will make you stronger (?) All the best
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I have a pretty okay background in falling :) I used to do Aikido before BJJ/MMA and if anything it taught me how to breakfall and be comfortable with it. After that I wrestled quite a lot through my MMA days so I know what it's like to hoist and be hoisted. So I'm probably far better equipped in that regard than your average adult or even BJJ adult looking to get into Judo.
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SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
What do you guys think?
Being thrown on the floor hurts, so I avoid takedowns as much as possible. I like martial arts where I can just lie on the floor and not do very much, so sticking to groundwork suits me well. ;)
ADPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
It's a great martial art. I would go and visit the judo clubs around, and see which one, if any, would make the most sense.
I honestly think BJJ has a lot to learn from judo, if not from a technical standpoint, from a teaching method standpoint. Granted the injury rate is higher, and you will get injured at one point, but with good training partners, with a good coach, you will learn a lot, and go back to BJJ and coaching with a very different experience in your pocket.
Do it. See how your body holds up, and if you feel comfortable, you'll have a great time.
I honestly think BJJ has a lot to learn from judo, if not from a technical standpoint, from a teaching method standpoint. Granted the injury rate is higher, and you will get injured at one point, but with good training partners, with a good coach, you will learn a lot, and go back to BJJ and coaching with a very different experience in your pocket.
Do it. See how your body holds up, and if you feel comfortable, you'll have a great time.
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Picking a club is not an issue. I get along well with the main active instructors in the biggest Judo club that operates in my town and still have popped in again for an occasional randori day during past year or so.
CHBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Picking a club is not an issue. I get along well with the main active instructors in the biggest Judo club that operates in my town and still have popped in again for an occasional randori day during past year or so.
Sounds like you have an ideal situation. Most of the places that have dedicated judo instruction also have better suited mats to assist us older folk in not becoming as injured. Landing repeatedly does take its toll on the body, but your knowledge from jiu-jitsu will serve you well in protecting your body. Judo does add a new dimension to your stand up game when grappling.
JMBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Yes, do judo. At least learn the gokyo-first 40 throws- . It makes watching the sport much more entertaining if nothing else. Remember, BJJ is judo with a twist, having newaza or groundwork at its focus. Sadly, I'm in my fifties and had to mostly give it up because as Vince pointed out, Judo hurts. Ignore the ijf ruleset. Learn all the kodokan stuff you can. And, get this book by Kano himself.
https://www.amazon.com/dp[...]FEbEJZW3RP
Have fun and let us know how it goes.
https://www.amazon.com/dp[...]FEbEJZW3RP
Have fun and let us know how it goes.
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CBBrown beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'm a dual Judoka and Jiujiteirro. Judo is very complementary to BJJ and vica versa, but I think it is easier when you have one you consider your base and the other as suplementary.
I do both, but my focus is BJJ. That helps me get through the restrictions in Judo more easily, basically I view Judo as stand up positional sparring for my BJJ.
Now, having said that, I personally think the better match up is actually SAMBO. If there was a SAMBO school in my area, I would drop Judo like an old hat and do SAMBO without looking back. :)
I do both, but my focus is BJJ. That helps me get through the restrictions in Judo more easily, basically I view Judo as stand up positional sparring for my BJJ.
Now, having said that, I personally think the better match up is actually SAMBO. If there was a SAMBO school in my area, I would drop Judo like an old hat and do SAMBO without looking back. :)
CHBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I definitely concur with the guys here who are suggesting that you go for it. You will quickly feel so much more confident in the standup arena. If your BJJ buddies hear about you doing Judo, you can be sure some of them will be a little bit reticent doing standup with you as well, which is kind of rewarding in itself.
Your existing proprioception gained from years of BJJ will, for the most part, protect you from doing stuff that could injure you. Another benefit is the fact that Judo is generally practiced at a much higher level of intensity than BJJ. It's fantastic for developing your cardio and strength. I was surprised how much easier it became to hang with the young guys after just six months of Judo training (twice weekly) on top of my regular BJJ classes. PLUS! You'll have way too much fun during the newaza (groundwork) portion of Judo training when you can get revenge on the young guys that were tossing you around a few minutes ago.
This clip from a Joe Rogan podcast pretty much sums up the advantage: https://youtu.be/4b3d0rkl[...]rDUFaGt4CU (Relevant section at 4:50)
Good luck! Keep us posted.
Your existing proprioception gained from years of BJJ will, for the most part, protect you from doing stuff that could injure you. Another benefit is the fact that Judo is generally practiced at a much higher level of intensity than BJJ. It's fantastic for developing your cardio and strength. I was surprised how much easier it became to hang with the young guys after just six months of Judo training (twice weekly) on top of my regular BJJ classes. PLUS! You'll have way too much fun during the newaza (groundwork) portion of Judo training when you can get revenge on the young guys that were tossing you around a few minutes ago.
This clip from a Joe Rogan podcast pretty much sums up the advantage: https://youtu.be/4b3d0rkl[...]rDUFaGt4CU (Relevant section at 4:50)
Good luck! Keep us posted.
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MGPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
My school offers judo twice a week. Over the years I participated in those classes fairly irregular, maybe ten a year. However, this year I declared for my New Years resolution that I would attend every judo class possible. Now I wish I would’ve have been more consistent all along.
APBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I am currently a yellow belt in judo (brown belt in BJJ) Judo is great to add to you’re BJJ.
Just be easy when throwing you’re training partner always compete the throws it’s better for both parties.
You will take a few throws wrong and be put out of training for a little while judo is rough on the body.
I love doing the foot sweeps and sacrifice throws but anything that’s lifting is still rough for myself I have two bad knees and doing drop throws or lifting of your partner I have about two good ones in me.
I highly recommend doing break falls first and uchikomi drills.
Hopefully that helps.
Just be easy when throwing you’re training partner always compete the throws it’s better for both parties.
You will take a few throws wrong and be put out of training for a little while judo is rough on the body.
I love doing the foot sweeps and sacrifice throws but anything that’s lifting is still rough for myself I have two bad knees and doing drop throws or lifting of your partner I have about two good ones in me.
I highly recommend doing break falls first and uchikomi drills.
Hopefully that helps.
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I highly recommend doing break falls first and uchikomi drills.
You mean as a warmup always? I think it's a super common practice to do that. Never heard of a judo club that wouldn't do that.
APBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Of course more you do everyday better you will be.
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Of course more you do everyday better you will be.
I think at least breakfalls wise I'm good. :) Uchikomi... if I make it a bit interesting then yes.
MPPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I combine BJJ and Judo, I am the champion of Czech Republic 2019 in the U15 category. In BJJ I have a great dominance in the grip and transition to the ground when I watch the attack on my feet.
I combine BJJ and Judo, I am the champion of Czech Republic 2019 in the U15 category. In BJJ I have a great dominance in the grip and transition to the ground when I watch the attack on my feet.
VHBlack belt 1st degreePending
6 year(s) ago
So for whatever reason (I haven't introspected too much on that) I've been starting to get more and more curious about the art/sport of judo -as it is-. I used to always go spar / train with judo guys at least couple of times a month to complement my BJJ and MMA before the leg-grab-ban rule. Even competed in a small local tournament once (hit two flying armbars on greenbelts ;) After the rules changed, I found it was too different from what I needed and then strayed away... But now I've started to play around with the idea to just pick it up as a side hobby (once the quarantine lifts obv) and get into it as an adult (37) as it is. Try to progress in that specific sport/art, maybe even compete again a couple of times for fun etc... What do you guys think?
I say do it if your heart desires. I’m not worried about your ability to adjust, or concerns of you getting hurt. I mean you’re a black belt in BJJ lol.
But, my question is why are you desiring this art, and what are you looking to gain from it that you don’t currently have?
But, my question is why are you desiring this art, and what are you looking to gain from it that you don’t currently have?
SCBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I combine BJJ and Judo, I am the champion of Czech Republic 2019 in the U15 category. In BJJ I have a great dominance in the grip and transition to the ground when I watch the attack on my feet.
You're a beast, man! Do you by chance train in any wrestling or do you have any plans to?
MPPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
You're a beast, man! Do you by chance train in any wrestling or do you have any plans to?
I go on the way to judo competitions, I continue to study BJJ, but Judo has an incredibly great competition in competitions, it is common that I have 50 to 70 opponents in my weight category, when I fight the tytul champion, so I am the only champion, not as in BJJ, that there are many champions under many organization, BJJ helps me a lot in newaza, I have a large number of submissions on Judo. Dad says Judo and BJJ are one art, divided by sports rules, if you remove sports goals, they merge into one.
EJBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
OMG. Judo is so much fun! You don't have to use big, killer throws. I recommend people start with throws that are easy to take and work up slowly.
Dropping seoi nage, uchimata, yoko otoshi (lateral drop), and such are nice and gentle. They also translate to nogi really well.
Dropping seoi nage, uchimata, yoko otoshi (lateral drop), and such are nice and gentle. They also translate to nogi really well.
OMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
So for whatever reason (I haven't introspected too much on that) I've been starting to get more and more curious about the art/sport of judo -as it is-. I used to always go spar / train with judo guys at least couple of times a month to complement my BJJ and MMA before the leg-grab-ban rule. Even competed in a small local tournament once (hit two flying armbars on greenbelts ;) After the rules changed, I found it was too different from what I needed and then strayed away... But now I've started to play around with the idea to just pick it up as a side hobby (once the quarantine lifts obv) and get into it as an adult (37) as it is. Try to progress in that specific sport/art, maybe even compete again a couple of times for fun etc... What do you guys think?
I added consistent Judo training to my routine as a purple belt. Aside from the confidence it has given me standing, I have found it technically fascinating as a supplement to BJJ. From a technique perspective I like to think as Judo developing my throws and pinning (facing experienced Judokas that will willingly turn their back and retract into their collar like a turtle into a shell poses questions) & BJJ developing the transitions and submissions. There are also some interesting looks in Judp that you just don't see in BJJ (especially in attacking the turtle)
We talk about position before submission in BJJ but I have to say that Judo opened my eyes to how much control I actually had in my pins. I thought they were tight, but it was more accurate to say they were tight against "BJJ directions".
Give it a go. I'm delighted I did.
We talk about position before submission in BJJ but I have to say that Judo opened my eyes to how much control I actually had in my pins. I thought they were tight, but it was more accurate to say they were tight against "BJJ directions".
Give it a go. I'm delighted I did.
OMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
One thing I am very lucky with also, is that my Judo Coach is quite happy to let me sit out Randori (Sparring) when my training load has been heavy for BJJ. Obviously this is an important aspect but he understands I do standup sparring regularly in my BJJ club. With that understanding it has allowed me to train consistently and be exposed to the techniques, were I might have dropped Judo otherwise due to fatigue/knocks.
MGPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
The bad thing about judo is that I suck at it more than I suck at Jiu Jitsu.
MBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Judo YES! Do it, it will help your BJJ a lot and will help you become a more complete grappler, unless you have done some wrestling before
For if you need any instructional then check out my channel, I have over 500 Judo videos on there.
http://youtube.com/c/beyo[...]dgrappling
For if you need any instructional then check out my channel, I have over 500 Judo videos on there.
http://youtube.com/c/beyo[...]dgrappling
FGBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Judo YES! Do it, it will help your BJJ a lot and will help you become a more complete grappler, unless you have done some wrestling before For if you need any instructional then check out my channel, I have over 500 Judo videos on there. http://youtube.com/c/beyo[...]dgrappling
This guy is one of the best in the business when it comes to Judo, BJJ and Grappling! I second that advice!
RPBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
My original art was wrestling. I did it for most of my early life until I was 20. It served me very well when I made the transition into BJJ. However, a lifetime of grappling can take its toll. My knees took a lot of damage because of it. So in the summer of 2018, I took up judo because shooting in wasn’t a viable option anymore.
I started competing right away in tournaments and had a lot of success. Within 6 months of actual training, I was an Ikkyu (last rank before black), and California state champion at Black. On the Jiu-Jitsu side, my confidence in standup was through the roof. I was able control the standup through grip fighting and movement.
Point being, it had nothing but a positive impact on me. I’m glad I do Judo now, and both arts have been complimentary with each other.
I started competing right away in tournaments and had a lot of success. Within 6 months of actual training, I was an Ikkyu (last rank before black), and California state champion at Black. On the Jiu-Jitsu side, my confidence in standup was through the roof. I was able control the standup through grip fighting and movement.
Point being, it had nothing but a positive impact on me. I’m glad I do Judo now, and both arts have been complimentary with each other.
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I believe that people who pull guard should have the right to marry,
And that we should be accepting and tolerant of alternative lifestyles,
As consenting adults may do as they please,
And its none of my business.
And that we should be accepting and tolerant of alternative lifestyles,
As consenting adults may do as they please,
And its none of my business.
TOBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Go for it if you have the time and energy. Being able to throw proficiently is a great skill to have so is being able to defend against and counter throws. I’m thinking about taking Judo up again (I’m a sankyu brown belt) but it’s really hard on a 52 year old body like mine.
ADPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Judo YES! Do it, it will help your BJJ a lot and will help you become a more complete grappler, unless you have done some wrestling before For if you need any instructional then check out my channel, I have over 500 Judo videos on there. http://youtube.com/c/beyo[...]dgrappling
I haven't done judo in a while, but when I did, I used to check out your channel a lot. Thank you for all the work you've put in it !
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
