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Old mail order Gracie Cert.
3 year(s) ago • 4053 views • 52 replies
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SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
My sonâs comment on the pressure-point ad: âWhy is Danny DeVito attacking John Candy?â :)
Your son has impeccable comedy references. :D
JBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Your son has impeccable comedy references. :D
Iâm bringing him up on a steady diet of â80s pop culture. :)
ADBrown beltVerified
3 year(s) ago
I have been chatting with a guy in Brazil. I may be getting my hands on these videos. I can't wait to see what people were getting for their $400. Sadly I won't get those sweet certificates. đ€Ł
VCBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Iâm bringing him up on a steady diet of â80s pop culture. :)
and I too appreciate your son's education in quality entertainment of years past *bravo*
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Okay.
It doesn't look great.
But in all fairness. This was still in the dark ages of BJJ in the USA, when there were hardly any legit instructors around and maybe 1 or 2 purple belts in each state.
Note that it was 400 bucks for a basic 4 tape curriculum to get the ball rolling at your school. With the option to get affiliation, and hands-on seminars with evaluation, belt testing and whatnot.
It wasn't a belt promotion by mail. You still had to get someone to come down and see what you were up to.
I agree it's not the prettiest thing in hindsight. But I'm sure this programme was short-lived anyways.
It's still a far cry from the crazy pyramid schemes, outlandish affiliation fees and other dubious things that were going on in the scene in those days. To give you an idea. I know a guy who had to re-mortgage his HOUSE to pay for a Rickson affiliation.
Just 0.2 cents from me. I got my black belt striped by Junior - so take that for what it's worth.
It doesn't look great.
But in all fairness. This was still in the dark ages of BJJ in the USA, when there were hardly any legit instructors around and maybe 1 or 2 purple belts in each state.
Note that it was 400 bucks for a basic 4 tape curriculum to get the ball rolling at your school. With the option to get affiliation, and hands-on seminars with evaluation, belt testing and whatnot.
It wasn't a belt promotion by mail. You still had to get someone to come down and see what you were up to.
I agree it's not the prettiest thing in hindsight. But I'm sure this programme was short-lived anyways.
It's still a far cry from the crazy pyramid schemes, outlandish affiliation fees and other dubious things that were going on in the scene in those days. To give you an idea. I know a guy who had to re-mortgage his HOUSE to pay for a Rickson affiliation.
Just 0.2 cents from me. I got my black belt striped by Junior - so take that for what it's worth.
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ADBrown beltVerified
3 year(s) ago
Okay. It doesn't look great. But in all fairness. This was still in the dark ages of BJJ in the USA, when there were hardly any legit instructors around and maybe 1 or 2 purple belts in each state. Note that it was 400 bucks for a basic 4 tape curriculum to get the ball rolling at your school. With the option to get affiliation, and hands-on seminars with evaluation, belt testing and whatnot. It wasn't a belt promotion by mail. You still had to get someone to come down and see what you were up to. I agree it's not the prettiest thing in hindsight. But I'm sure this programme was short-lived anyways. It's still a far cry from the crazy pyramid schemes, outlandish affiliation fees and other dubious things that were going on in the scene in those days. To give you an idea. I know a guy who had to re-mortgage his HOUSE to pay for a Rickson affiliation. Just 0.2 cents from me. I got my black belt striped by Junior - so take that for what it's worth.
Yeah. I hear Jr is a great guy. I think the not looking so great you talk about is why he stopped pretty quickly. It was a wild time to say the least. I heard of guys in the late 90s get blue belts just for hosting a seminar. I won't name names. I just ordered the videos from a guy in Brazil. I shall see how they stack up to some of the tapes I had from Rorion back in my youth.
JBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Also, in Jrâs defense, virtually all of the ads in the back of â90s martial arts magazines looked like that. They made liberal use of all caps, italics, bold text, and underlining, with passages like, âFEAR NO MAN! Learn the DEADLY, STREET-LETHAL techniques of the NINJA for only ten easy payments of $19.99!â Jr. probably had some marketing guy tell him to do the ad like that. I doubt it was his idea.
VCBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Also, in Jrâs defense, virtually all of the ads in the back of â90s martial arts magazines looked like that. They made liberal use of all caps, italics, bold text, and underlining, with passages like, âFEAR NO MAN! Learn the DEADLY, STREET-LETHAL techniques of the NINJA for only ten easy payments of $19.99!â Jr. probably had some marketing guy tell him to do the ad like that. I doubt it was his idea.
Totally agree with this. Back then it was free for all to do anything and everything to capture that small market of people interested in grappling. I recall reading ads which promised to turn you into a death machine with the small payment of $9.99 to unlock the secrets of combat, etc. (Marco Lala, & other similar ads)
Most things look horrible/cheesy in hindsight, refer to your high school pics for evidence, then you will be more forgiving.
[edit] added the ad reference
Most things look horrible/cheesy in hindsight, refer to your high school pics for evidence, then you will be more forgiving.
[edit] added the ad reference
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ADBrown beltVerified
BZBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Another good one.
The Best thing you will learn with him is experience based : "if there's no rules, cut that fucking ponytail before enter in the octagon !"
ADBrown beltVerified
3 year(s) ago
So, I actually got my hands on these videos faster than I thought I would. Conan does all the talking. Jr shows the techniques. They are pretty good for late 90s Panther videos. Not $400 good, but there wasn't a lot of options at the time. Definitely better than the Rorion videos that gave you about four techniques repeating a thousand times.
JBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
My favorite thing about â90s martial arts magazines was all of the âanti-grapplingâ articles that popped up after the UFC came on the scene. This little gem is from the July 1995 issue of Black Belt Magazine. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but our Jiu-Jitsu techniques can apparently be easily defeated by this combo! I feel like all my years of training have been a shameful waste! ;)
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VCBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
My favorite thing about â90s martial arts magazines was all of the âanti-grapplingâ articles that popped up after the UFC came on the scene. This little gem is from the July 1995 issue of Black Belt Magazine. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but our Jiu-Jitsu techniques can apparently be easily defeated by this combo! I feel like all my years of training have been a shameful waste! ;)
the infamous Wing Chun vs BJJ era :)
ADBrown beltVerified
3 year(s) ago
My favorite thing about â90s martial arts magazines was all of the âanti-grapplingâ articles that popped up after the UFC came on the scene. This little gem is from the July 1995 issue of Black Belt Magazine. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but our Jiu-Jitsu techniques can apparently be easily defeated by this combo! I feel like all my years of training have been a shameful waste! ;)
I love the over the arm kick finish.
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
ADBrown beltVerified
3 year(s) ago
YT could have saved you a couple of bucks. https://youtu.be/l64YjEgtBtc
That's not the same video series. Made around the same time though.
JBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
Another good one.
Thereâs a lot of useful information in Kimoâs eight-tape series⊠;)
Volume I: Roid-Rage in the CageâThe Subtle Art of Performance Enhancing Drugs
Volume II: Crossed OutâHow to Make Offensive Religious Imagery Work for You
Volume III: âTailâ of the TapeâHot Hair Tips for the Octagon
Volume IV: BS on the CVâHow to Embellish Your Martial Arts RĂ©sumĂ©
Volume V: Kool and the Gang-RapeâHelping Your Instructor Navigate the Legal System
Volume VI: Punching the BagâFirst Aid Tips for Your Instructorâs Injured Groin
Volume VII: The Juice is on the LooseâHow to Get Swole without Getting Caught (The Subtle Art of Performance Enhancing Drugs, Part 2)
Volume VIII: Vicarious VictoryâHow to Tastefully Celebrate a âWinâ after a Much Smaller Guy Submits You and Gets Tired
Volume I: Roid-Rage in the CageâThe Subtle Art of Performance Enhancing Drugs
Volume II: Crossed OutâHow to Make Offensive Religious Imagery Work for You
Volume III: âTailâ of the TapeâHot Hair Tips for the Octagon
Volume IV: BS on the CVâHow to Embellish Your Martial Arts RĂ©sumĂ©
Volume V: Kool and the Gang-RapeâHelping Your Instructor Navigate the Legal System
Volume VI: Punching the BagâFirst Aid Tips for Your Instructorâs Injured Groin
Volume VII: The Juice is on the LooseâHow to Get Swole without Getting Caught (The Subtle Art of Performance Enhancing Drugs, Part 2)
Volume VIII: Vicarious VictoryâHow to Tastefully Celebrate a âWinâ after a Much Smaller Guy Submits You and Gets Tired
PWBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I didnât get a certificate - but I own the videos ⊠here is a list of the content:
Self defense Level 1 (Carlson Gracie Jr).
-Two handed Choke from the Front Variation 1
-Two handed Choke from the Front Variation 2
-Hair grab, Front
-Bear hug from the front, Arms pinned
-Bear hug from the front, Arms free
-Front snap kick
-Front push kick
Self defense Level 2 (Carlson Gracie, Jr.)
-Bear Hug from the rear, Armes pinned
-Bear Hug from the rear, Armes free
-Rear arm choke Variation 1
-Rear arm choke Variation 2
-Full Nelson
-Two handed choke from the rear
Self defense Level 3 (Carlson Gracie, Jr.).
-Head lock from the front, Variation 1
-Head lock from the front, Variation 2
-Head lock from the rear, Variation 1
-Head lock from the rear, Variation 2
-Head lock from the rear, Variation 3
Self defense Level 4 (Carlson Gracie, Jr.)
-Punches from the Mount
-Escaping Kesa Gatame (Scarf Hold)
-Cross Choke, Variation 1
-Cross Choke, Variation 2
-Arm lock 1
-Arm lock 2
-Arm lock 3
-Triangle
-Arm lock from the back
-Passing the Guard
-Reversal Guard to Mount
-Reversal Guard to Mount, Variation 1
Self defense Level 1 (Carlson Gracie Jr).
-Two handed Choke from the Front Variation 1
-Two handed Choke from the Front Variation 2
-Hair grab, Front
-Bear hug from the front, Arms pinned
-Bear hug from the front, Arms free
-Front snap kick
-Front push kick
Self defense Level 2 (Carlson Gracie, Jr.)
-Bear Hug from the rear, Armes pinned
-Bear Hug from the rear, Armes free
-Rear arm choke Variation 1
-Rear arm choke Variation 2
-Full Nelson
-Two handed choke from the rear
Self defense Level 3 (Carlson Gracie, Jr.).
-Head lock from the front, Variation 1
-Head lock from the front, Variation 2
-Head lock from the rear, Variation 1
-Head lock from the rear, Variation 2
-Head lock from the rear, Variation 3
Self defense Level 4 (Carlson Gracie, Jr.)
-Punches from the Mount
-Escaping Kesa Gatame (Scarf Hold)
-Cross Choke, Variation 1
-Cross Choke, Variation 2
-Arm lock 1
-Arm lock 2
-Arm lock 3
-Triangle
-Arm lock from the back
-Passing the Guard
-Reversal Guard to Mount
-Reversal Guard to Mount, Variation 1
ADBrown beltVerified
HABlack belt 1st degreeVerified
3 year(s) ago
I used to have a Krugans Gi. Awesome gi.
I forgot to get the certificate :)
I forgot to get the certificate :)
BVBlack beltVerified
3 year(s) ago
I've seen these tapes. They honestly are not very good. There was better stuff floating around back then.
