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Testing “30% slowmotion rolls” as a warmup - your toughts?

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Jeroen Putzeys
Jeroen Putzeys
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified9 forum posts2080/1000
4 month(s) ago
Hey everyone,
I run a small BJJ academy with an incredibly diverse group of members — ranging from 13 to 59 years old, from absolute white belts to black belts, and from competitive athletes to recreational practitioners who have zero interest in competing. Needless to say, structuring a single class that genuinely serves everyone at the same time is a constant challenge.
About nine months ago I started experimenting with what I call “30% slow motion rolls” as a warm-up. The concept is simple: everyone rolls at roughly 30% speed — no strength, no explosiveness, just slow, deliberate, technically focused movement. Think of it as a moving positional study rather than a real roll.
The results honestly surprised me. Progress that would normally take me over a year to see across the board happened in about nine months. A few specific things I noticed:
• Zero injuries during warm-up — none.
• Every skill level can roll with every other skill level without hesitation. A 13-year-old white belt can go with a 45-year-old black belt and both get something out of it.
• New white belts lose their fear of rolling much faster. The slow pace makes the experience approachable rather than overwhelming.
• Everyone — including the competitors — moves with far more control and intention.
I was skeptical at first, especially about whether the higher belts and competitive members would find value in it. But even they started reporting that it helped them identify and clean up technical gaps they hadn’t noticed before.
Has anyone else tried something similar? I’d love to hear how other small academies handle the challenge of mixed-level classes.
Sean Kyle
Sean Kyle
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4 month(s) ago
We actually use a similar structure. Many gyms warm up with movements that waste time, and students are paying money to practice shrimping without a live body and doing rolls and cartwheels or pushups and jogging. In our gym, we do 3 rounds, 6 minutes a piece. First round is a flow, second round is a 30-50% roll, and the third round is up to the students discretion but we encourage the third round to be a hard round. After every class, we have a 1 hour open mat. That gives every student the opportunity to roll for well over an hour every class, and an hour for technique. Leading up to competitions, structure is more so based on the ecological approach for learning but we still do full live rounds before and after class. Every time we get a visitor from another gym, they compliment our class structure and environment because we prioritize live training and it sets us apart from many other gyms. Even our Judo classes are structured this way.
Jeroen Putzeys
Jeroen PutzeysOP
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4 month(s) ago
@Sean:
Tnx for the feedback! This is the direction, I try to evolueer with the team.

@Brian:
It’s definitely a proces! In the beginning I needed to guide them closely while they were rolling. And often times I needed to interrupt the rolling to slow things down. But after a few sessions most of them started to get the picture. I encourage them also to communicate openly about use of strength and speed during the roll. I mostly use 5-6 rolls of 5min before we switch to technique or principles.
Isaac
Isaac
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4 month(s) ago
Flow rolling is the best warm up IMO. Lets play the game we are gonna play slowly with catch and release submissions. I have never seen a poll where students wanted traditional warm ups over light sparring either. I am not sure where the unstructured shrimping down the mat came from.
Jim
Jim
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4 month(s) ago
All of my warm-ups are practical skills. I never liked running in circles or doing calisthenics. I typically have students drill the techniques that we worked on in the previous class for a few minutes followed by some “performance games,” which is the term Burton Richardson uses for playful sparring exercises. I save the heavier sparring for the end of class. I think playful, low-to-moderate-resistance sparring is very helpful because it (1) makes sparring less about competition and more about learning, (2) reduces injuries, and (3) encourages people to try new techniques rather than only playing their A-game.
Jeroen Putzeys
Jeroen PutzeysOP
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4 month(s) ago
Yes indeed.
This seems to open up minds to take more “risks” and try something new. I even have the impression that they like it more than regular sparring.
Kyle Baker
Kyle Baker
Black beltVerified61 forum posts5155/1000
4 month(s) ago
When I teach, this is always how I do warmups. No bullshit at the beginning of class, just some flow rolling and then into class.

Shrimps are mind numbing. What a waste of human life.

Delighted to hear it isn't just me.
David Derstine
David Derstine
Black belt 1st degreeVerified12 forum posts1780/1000
4 month(s) ago
I've always preferred not doing warmups at all and just getting straight to drilling. Assuming sparring is at the end of class I'll get plenty warm enough by drilling. I'm not sure I ever have seen anyone injure themselves by drilling too so I'm not sure what we warm up for if drilling is right after warmups, it's not as if we'll maintain that warmth from warmup after a while or drilling anyway.
Jason Van Dyke
Jason Van Dyke
Black beltVerified16 forum posts1370/1000
4 month(s) ago
I eliminated warm-ups completely because they just caused people to show up late. When the clock strikes 7:00, I begin teaching and drilling. At 7:45, we go into 30 minutes of positional sparring. At 8:15, they get three four minute rounds with a 1 minute break in between. I have adopted this structure for a number of reasons: (a) teaching three things per class - which are well connected - improves student retention of the information; (b) positional sparring, emphasizing the lesson of the night, adds a heightened learning element to full rounds; and (c) by the time we get to full rounds the people who tend to roll harder (one person's 30% is different from another's) are already tired from the half hour of situational/positional sparring.

I cannot take credit for this idea. I stole it from the "crawl/walk/run" class structure used by the military. It has been effective so far.
Brian Van Miltenburg
Brian Van Miltenburg
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4 month(s) ago
Interesting ideas, here's how I do it. My fundamentals classes I do a basic warm up with some calisthenics (max 3 minutes) and basic movements. It takes about 10 minutes, its plays into the expectations and skill level of the participants and also it resets their minds from a day at the office to sports. Also there is a lot of value in having warmed up your body for injury prevention, and beginners need this before we start doing drills, games and sparring.

With all the other classes I do I do warm ups in the form of some CLA based games relevant to the topic at hand. Lots of movement and clear goals make it the intensity stays where it should be. By the time people enter those classes, they are ready to do these games appropriately.
Jeroen Putzeys
Jeroen PutzeysOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified9 forum posts2080/1000
4 month(s) ago
I eliminated warm-ups completely because they just caused people to show up late. When the clock strikes 7:00, I begin teaching and drilling. At 7:45, we go into 30 minutes of positional sparring. At 8:15, they get three four minute rounds with a 1 minute break in between. I have adopted this structure for a number of reasons: (a) teaching three things per class - which are well connected - improves student retention of the information; (b) positional sparring, emphasizing the lesson of the night, adds a heightened learning element to full rounds; and (c) by the time we get to full rounds the people who tend to roll harder (one person's 30% is different from another's) are already tired from the half hour of situational/positional sparring. I cannot take credit for this idea. I stole it from the "crawl/walk/run" class structure used by the military. It has been effective so far.
Interesting idea! Sounds Well structuren indeed. It pulls me into testing it out. Thank you!
Jeroen Putzeys
Jeroen PutzeysOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified9 forum posts2080/1000
4 month(s) ago
Interesting ideas, here's how I do it. My fundamentals classes I do a basic warm up with some calisthenics (max 3 minutes) and basic movements. It takes about 10 minutes, its plays into the expectations and skill level of the participants and also it resets their minds from a day at the office to sports. Also there is a lot of value in having warmed up your body for injury prevention, and beginners need this before we start doing drills, games and sparring. With all the other classes I do I do warm ups in the form of some CLA based games relevant to the topic at hand. Lots of movement and clear goals make it the intensity stays where it should be. By the time people enter those classes, they are ready to do these games appropriately.
I understand the difference. But since my team is very small, I do not get to split classes up yet.
I’ll keep the idea for later. Tnx!
Kevin Klapps
Kevin Klapps
Brown beltVerified26 forum posts1155/700
4 month(s) ago
For me personally, the low-intensity rounds are very well suited for practicing without a stress factor. That stress factor then comes into play in the proper rounds. I myself find the rounds with lower intensity alongside beginners to be very educational.
Robert
Robert
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified53 forum posts1565/1000
4 month(s) ago
Hey everyone, I run a small BJJ academy with an incredibly diverse group of members — ranging from 13 to 59 years old, from absolute white belts to black belts, and from competitive athletes to recreational practitioners who have zero interest in competing. Needless to say, structuring a single class that genuinely serves everyone at the same time is a constant challenge. About nine months ago I started experimenting with what I call “30% slow motion rolls” as a warm-up. The concept is simple: everyone rolls at roughly 30% speed — no strength, no explosiveness, just slow, deliberate, technically focused movement. Think of it as a moving positional study rather than a real roll. The results honestly surprised me. Progress that would normally take me over a year to see across the board happened in about nine months. A few specific things I noticed: • Zero injuries during warm-up — none. • Every skill level can roll with every other skill level without hesitation. A 13-year-old white belt can go with a 45-year-old black belt and both get something out of it. • New white belts lose their fear of rolling much faster. The slow pace makes the experience approachable rather than overwhelming. • Everyone — including the competitors — moves with far more control and intention. I was skeptical at first, especially about whether the higher belts and competitive members would find value in it. But even they started reporting that it helped them identify and clean up technical gaps they hadn’t noticed before. Has anyone else tried something similar? I’d love to hear how other small academies handle the challenge of mixed-level classes.
It is a very good idea. And very hard to implement.

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